@"Mavs2019" I don't know that I'm shocked by this hire, it's just so weird.
Dude falls flat on his face with what should have been the best team in the league and is now a total dumpster fire. Gets fired and IMMEDIATELY goes to the top of the list. Philly ghosts D'Antoni, who I think they were basically 24 hours away from hiring when Doc got fired. Where will HE end up now?
Like, I wonder if D'Antoni thought he had Philly in the bag when he decided to leave Houston.
(10-01-2020, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]@"Mavs2019" I don't know that I'm shocked by this hire, it's just so weird.
Dude falls flat on his face with what should have been the best team in the league and is now a total dumpster fire. Gets fired and IMMEDIATELY goes to the top of the list. Philly ghosts D'Antoni, who I think they were basically 24 hours away from hiring when Doc got fired. Where will HE end up now?
Like, I wonder if D'Antoni thought he had Philly in the bag when he decided to leave Houston.
Yeah I think they would have hired D´Antoni, which stylistically made no sense with Embiid/Horford and their whole roster. More fuel to the bad FO fire.
Rivers just makes more sense with his ability to potentially connect with Embiid emotionally, which ultimately makes or breaks Philly. That and whether Simmons can learn to shoot adequately.
(10-01-2020, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]D'Antoni
I think he would be great for Pelicans. They would be very fun to watch and they are not ready to contend anyway. Give them D'Antoni for a couple of years for the guys to grow up and then change him with a coach that can actually win something.
(10-01-2020, 04:48 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Harris is still an impact player on defense.
Totally agree. Funny though, how people were convincing me about the oposite, that he is bad defensively. If he would be expiring, I would take a flyer. With his contract, I am not. And Denver will not be dumping him anyway, they would want to upgrade him. For example - I wouldn't do THJ for him straight up, which is the only player that could theoretically make sense for Denver.
(10-01-2020, 05:31 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]D'Antoni
I think he would be great for Pelicans. They would be very fun to watch and they are not ready to contend anyway. Give them D'Antoni for a couple of years for the guys to grow up and then change him with a coach that can actually win something.
Well, now that you mention it, I suppose Amare Stoudemire is a pretty good model for how to get Zion's career off of the ground while he works to add skills to his game. I can see it.
(10-01-2020, 06:57 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]YouTubeTV dropped FSSW today. Guess I will have to go to Hulu when it comes time.
Ugh, I have to switch again?
(10-01-2020, 02:35 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 02:19 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Paul George will save the Nets.
Like he saved Clippers?
What is sarcasm?
(10-01-2020, 05:31 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 04:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]D'Antoni
I think he would be great for Pelicans. They would be very fun to watch and they are not ready to contend anyway. Give them D'Antoni for a couple of years for the guys to grow up and then change him with a coach that can actually win something.
(10-01-2020, 04:48 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Harris is still an impact player on defense.
Totally agree. Funny though, how people were convincing me about the oposite, that he is bad defensively. If he would be expiring, I would take a flyer. With his contract, I am not. And Denver will not be dumping him anyway, they would want to upgrade him. For example - I wouldn't do THJ for him straight up, which is the only player that could theoretically make sense for Denver.
Absolutely agree about the Pelicans, but I think they have had enough of the no defense coaching with Gentry already. No cap repercussions, I´d do Harris for THJ straight up. I doubt Denver would.
(10-02-2020, 01:06 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like Hield situation is getting worse. According to this, he and Walton really don't click and Hield has stopped returning his phone calls.
https://theathletic.com/2109475/2020/10/...to-philly/
They haven't clicked since Walton benched him. As soon as it became clear that Walton was back next year I assumed Hield would be shipped out, and the fact that they hired an analytics GM seems on track with that, too.
I still don't think the Mavs will want to take on money past 2021, but for the record, if they DID decide to turn the page, I think Hield is an improvement over THJ, INCLUDING the areas in which THJ already is valuable.
(10-02-2020, 01:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I still don't think the Mavs will want to take on money past 2021, but for the record, if they DID decide to turn the page, I think Hield is an improvement over THJ, INCLUDING the areas in which THJ already is valuable.
I agree. From Sacramento perspective - Hield for THJ makes a lot of sense. Hield for Horford makes zero sense. Hield and Barnes for Horford and Richardson makes a bit more sense. Clean up most of Vlade crap with one move for the price of two years of Horford.
From Dallas perspective. Hield is a better shooter. BUT:
- THJ is a proven locker room fit, Hield is a liability
- THJ enables 2021 flexibility, Hield basically kills it
- Hield doesn't improve defense
So, if I am Mavs, I only do this if Sacramento adds a sweetener like pick swap or similar. Otherwise there is too much risk for marginal improvement.
(10-02-2020, 01:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2020, 01:06 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like Hield situation is getting worse. According to this, he and Walton really don't click and Hield has stopped returning his phone calls.
https://theathletic.com/2109475/2020/10/...to-philly/
They haven't clicked since Walton benched him. As soon as it became clear that Walton was back next year I assumed Hield would be shipped out, and the fact that they hired an analytics GM seems on track with that, too.
I still don't think the Mavs will want to take on money past 2021, but for the record, if they DID decide to turn the page, I think Hield is an improvement over THJ, INCLUDING the areas in which THJ already is valuable.
If they are truly on non-speaking terms maybe a low-ball offer like Wright + Powell + #31 + future 2nd already gets the job done.
That´s a deal easy to get on board with.
(10-02-2020, 01:34 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2020, 01:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I still don't think the Mavs will want to take on money past 2021, but for the record, if they DID decide to turn the page, I think Hield is an improvement over THJ, INCLUDING the areas in which THJ already is valuable.
I agree. From Sacramento perspective - Hield for THJ makes a lot of sense. Hield for Horford makes zero sense. Hield and Barnes for Horford and Richardson makes a bit more sense. Clean up most of Vlade crap with one move for the price of two years of Horford.
On paper Horford makes a lot of sense. They don´t have a guaranteed starting center and more importantly they don´t have a proven winner and veteran leader. Sacramento is one of the few teams, where Horford actually does make sense, despite his age and contract.
Yeah, I think Hield has a chance to look like an All-Star next to Luka and Porzingis. He can get shots off now, when he's really the most dangerous player on his team. Imagine how he'd do in the THJ role!!!
Plus, his handle and general killer instinct is far superior. I'd expect him to be more of a playmaker here than anyone outside of Luka. Maybe not what the Mavs were hoping for when they went after Kemba, but wayyyyy better than THJ or Curry.
I know he has a bad rep on defense, and that might be the case. I'm not overly familiar with his game on that end. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's average, maybe he has the potential to be good - I have no idea.
But, if you pull the trigger on that, you're basically locked into making trades, low draft picks and MLE signings for quite a while. You'd have to REALLY believe he elevates the roster to do it at this point, in my opinion. I don't think they will.
(10-02-2020, 01:37 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]If they are truly on non-speaking terms maybe a low-ball offer like Wright + Powell + #31 + future 2nd already gets the job done.
Nah. There are teams (Philly being prime one) that could use Hield very well and would offer more. It would take more picks to just dump those two contracts, yet alone get something useful back.
(10-02-2020, 01:37 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]On paper Horford makes a lot of sense. They don´t have a guaranteed starting center and more importantly they don´t have a proven winner and veteran leader. Sacramento is one of the few teams, where Horford actually does make sense, despite his age and contract.
Yeah, he can bring something. But he doesn't save them any money. It would be way cheaper for them to resign Holmes.
(10-02-2020, 01:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I know he has a bad rep on defense, and that might be the case. I'm not overly familiar with his game on that end. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's average, maybe he has the potential to be good - I have no idea.
He was positive on/off defensively his first two years....but that was with SAC being 28th and 25th in the league in D. The last two years they have been better and he has been a big negative in on/off defensively. So the data says he is not a good defender.
I'm not a numbers hater, Kamm, though I'm not as good with them as you are. And maybe this is naive of me, but part of me wonders how predictive numbers can be when trying to determine whether a defender can go from poor to slightly above average on a new team.
Imagining myself in his shoes, I know that I would try harder on that end of the court if I got out of Sacramento and thought I had a chance to go deep in the playoffs.
Then again, maybe he just doesn't have it in him and he's just a negative on that end.
(10-02-2020, 02:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]how predictive numbers can be when trying to determine whether a defender can go from poor to slightly above average on a new team
The best predictor of the future (from an odds standpoint) is the past. So past performance IS the most likely outcome. However, there are SO many variables at work that you actually never know. People change, systems change, randomness strikes, etc.
If the Heat want any chance of winning this game, they are going to have to drain a lot of threes, which they are not showing the ability to do.
These finals are so depressing.
Miami has been managed better than any team in the league, even better than teams who've stacked the deck by compiling an embarrassment of resources, like Boston. They've done everything right. They stuck to their kind of guys, they have one of the best coaches in the league who is on the same page as management about how to build a system around those guys. They cut through the Eastern Conference like a machete through tissue paper.
What's their reward? They lose two of the their three best players in the opening game.
Meanwhile, the Lakers, one of the worst run teams in all of sports recently, nearing a Knicks level of dysfunctional ineptitude, get saved from themselves because LA is the best place to live in the world for those who can afford to take advantage of everything it offers and because Lebron wants to star in a Space Jam remake as part of some misguided and pathetic plan to convince people that he's better than Jordan.
I don't know how the Minnesota Timberwolves ever sell a single ticket. This league has a huge problem, in my opinion.
This makes me hope Giannis stays in Milwaukee.
In before @"robillionaire" writes something about Rondo, who legitimately looks like a hall of famer in these playoffs and especially this series.