09-15-2020, 12:07 AM
(09-14-2020, 10:13 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I found a 9/14/19 post. Happy One Year Anniversary fellow Mavs fans.
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!
HERE'S TO MANY MANY MORE LUKA AND KRISTAPS HIGHLIGHTS
AND TO A MAGICK FUTURE!
(09-14-2020, 10:13 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I found a 9/14/19 post. Happy One Year Anniversary fellow Mavs fans.
(09-14-2020, 07:53 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ](09-14-2020, 07:11 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]So Omahen what about when the Thunder traded Carmelo Anthony to the Hawks for Schroeder?
From OKC, it was a cost cutting move as it saved them huge tax bill. I told you this is one of the exceptions.
Atlanta received a FRP for their troubles.
Cleveland continously refuses to just give away Love, proving exactly my point.
(09-15-2020, 11:09 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I might have missed this, but do we know yet how the pandemic is affecting revenue or the cap?
I mean, there actually might be some teams who NEED to reduce salary, depending on how that shakes out.
(09-15-2020, 11:14 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing concrete yet. But it's assumed that the future cap estimations has to be reduced from major loss of revenue from COVID and even the China debacle.
The one plan I have heard bounced around the Bill Simmons Podcast is that they'll smooth out the cap the next 3 years, keeping it at 109 instead of drastically reducing it and then plan to pay off the losses with revenue from future seasons when fans can hopefully be present.
Which doesn't sound too bad to me.
(09-15-2020, 11:24 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]@"KillerLeft" there's always teams who need to dump money and this offseason there are more bad contracts than there were last year. The question is whether or not the Mavs will take on money absent a superstar. My guess is 99% they won't until the Giannis situation is resolved and I bet he gives the Bucks a year which means this thing is going to be a story for an entire year.
I expect Mavs will instead do what they always do in these situations which is clear space for 2021 and focus on short-term deals.
(09-15-2020, 11:29 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Don't flame me, but are we still sure about the conventional wisdom that "Cuban is willing to spend whatever it takes to win"???
(09-15-2020, 11:43 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Cubes absolutely is willing to if he thinks it improves the team and makes good use of their assets. I really think they believe that their current strategy gives them the best opportunity to improve the team. If/when they have their stars set, I do think they would spend luxury tax if it made the team better and didn't hamper them from making moves in the future.
He says that a lot to signal to FA's that our Front office is better than these teams that avoid the Luxury Tax like the plague. It's sort of a cheap promise bc he doesn't really have to follow through thanks to his track record from old CBA's. He has a reputation as a spender which I do think is helpful to would-be free agents coming from say a small market that won't spend money.
(09-15-2020, 11:05 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Well look some will, some won't. Last year the Suns gave the Pacers TJ Warren and the #32 pick just to clear his salary off the books.
(09-15-2020, 11:05 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]If you have the ability to absorb money that they want to shed
(09-15-2020, 11:29 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Don't flame me, but are we still sure about the conventional wisdom that "Cuban is willing to spend whatever it takes to win"???
(09-15-2020, 11:09 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I mean, there actually might be some teams who NEED to reduce salary, depending on how that shakes out.
(09-15-2020, 12:47 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]If I confused the issue sorry about that but this is really a OKC/DAL hypothetica
(09-15-2020, 12:47 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]My whole point was just IF the Mavs could get a talented, albeit flawed player like Bledsoe for only filler, would ppl here do it?
(09-15-2020, 01:06 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2020, 12:47 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]My whole point was just IF the Mavs could get a talented, albeit flawed player like Bledsoe for only filler, would ppl here do it?
I don't see a lot of point in this discussion, but if you insist. I think Bledsoe is very intriguing with his defensive capabilities, but too risky on offensive side. I would not take this risk even if it would only take Wright and Jackson. I think there are less risky moves out there. If there would be no deal for us and if OKC would really insist saying pretty please, than I would probably do it.
(09-15-2020, 01:27 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Any chance Houston could get dump Gordon and Westbrook for space?
(09-15-2020, 01:06 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2020, 11:09 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I mean, there actually might be some teams who NEED to reduce salary, depending on how that shakes out.
I also haven't seen anything concrete that teams might be in real trouble. So I am assuming teams will try to avoid tax or not go into tax to heavily. If we look at teams that are projected to be in tax under 109 cap estimate, this is the list:
- GSW (+16 mil in tax)
- Philly (+15)
- Brooklyn (+9)
- Boston (+9)
Not really teams one would expect to aggresively trade out of tax teritory. I can see GSW not excercising their trade exemption to bring another 17 milllion player, I can see Philly traying to not add to tax, Brooklyn perhaps not resigning Harris and Boston not bringing in someone for MLE. But I don't see any of them just giving away players to avoid tax.
Next group of teams are close to the tax line:
- Houston
- Indiana
- Orlando
- Milwaukee
Milwaukee would be really stupid to be cheap this season. They have to show Giannis they want to win or he will be gone. They have decent contracts that give them flexibility: Bledsoe, RLopez, Wilson, Ilyasova, even Hill.
Houston can most easily avoid tax by trading Westbrook for less salary. If there are still teams that think he is a star. Or if they find a taker for Gordon horrible salary and get something back. Trading Harden, Tucker or Covington is basically same as surrendering.
Indiana would perhaps have to let someone like Justin Holiday go and not excercise MLE, but they don't have other problems to keep their core if they wish. Same with Orlando.
(09-15-2020, 01:27 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Any chance Houston could get dump Gordon and Westbrook for space?
(09-15-2020, 01:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I have no idea where you got your numbers.
(09-15-2020, 01:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]like the one in OKC (but a single CP3 trade fixes their issues)
(09-15-2020, 01:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know what team in the NBA could accept Westbrook's contract without sending much back in return. And even if they can would it even make any sense for them.