(02-04-2022, 05:13 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: [ -> ]Future 1st, Moses Brown, and THJ for Miles Turner
Both have foot injuries so no harm no foul right LOL
Or you could do Kleber, Powell, and a future 1st for Turner + a separate deal that takes Jeremy Lamb’s last year into the TPE.
(02-04-2022, 12:51 AM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]Is this Mark Cuban?
Will you please address the consistent shutdown of the Brunson Burner when wing-sized defenders are in front of it? Thanks!
#MakeBrunsonAKnick
Hey, you're the one who claimed he played cards with Bob Voulgraris, not me. I'd think you'd have better avenues of communication to the inside than I.
I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that one playoff series (his first) is an accurate predictor of how well Brunson will perform against good, long teams for the duration of his career. In fact, I've seen him overcome similar circumstances this season more than once. Every player has weaknesses, but Brunson has been one of the best stories in the league these past couple of seasons. Giving him up without a fight, or at least without a good return, would be super silly.
Other than Toppin (maybe) and draft picks, there isn't a single player on the Knicks I'd want enough to trade Brunson there, tbh. Now, if he's bolting anyway, that's a different story, but again, you'd know better than I. Ask Bob for us. He might know.
(02-04-2022, 06:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Other than Toppin (maybe) and draft picks, there isn't a single player on the Knicks I'd want enough to trade Brunson there, tbh. Now, if he's bolting anyway, that's a different story, but again, you'd know better than I. Ask Bob for us. He might know.
You wouldn't take RJ Barrett over Brunson? Now THAT is interesting.
(02-04-2022, 07:04 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]You wouldn't take RJ Barrett over Brunson? Now THAT is interesting.
...MAYBE. I think he's pretty overrated, but the potential is good, I'll admit.
Idk, though. I
really value pnr ball-handlers who can score. I think it's the #1 thing to have in the NBA right now.
(02-04-2022, 06:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, you're the one who claimed he played cards with Bob Voulgraris, not me. I'd think you'd have better avenues of communication to the inside than I.
I don't subscribe to the ridiculous notion that one playoff series (his first) is an accurate predictor of how well Brunson will perform against good, long teams for the duration of his career. In fact, I've seen him overcome similar circumstances this season more than once. Every player has weaknesses, but Brunson has been one of the best stories in the league these past couple of seasons. Giving him up without a fight, or at least without a good return, would be super silly.
Other than Toppin (maybe) and draft picks, there isn't a single player on the Knicks I'd want enough to trade Brunson there, tbh. Now, if he's bolting anyway, that's a different story, but again, you'd know better than I. Ask Bob for us. He might know.
As you’ll recall, Mr. Voulgaris was not retained as part of Mark Cuban’s brain trust (I was also LYING).
Did you watch the recent game against Phoenix? Brunson really struggled against their lengthy defenders. I think the Batum-lockdown in the playoffs was more the pattern than an anomaly. How about we watch tonight when Thybulle spends time on Brunson and come back here for healthy discussion? Deal? Deal.
(02-04-2022, 07:49 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]Did you watch the recent game against Phoenix? Brunson really struggled against their lengthy defenders. I think the Batum-lockdown in the playoffs was more the pattern than an anomaly. How about we watch tonight when Thybulle spends time on Brunson and come back here for healthy discussion? Deal? Deal.
I'm not proposing building the team around Brunson. I am saying that he's clearly the second best player on the team, and that it's not close. If he's soaking up one of the better, longer defenders the opposing team has to throw, I say "Good! Keep that guy off of Luka."
And, I don't think Brunson is anywhere near a finished product. I think regardless of what happened in a few games here or there, or what happens tonight, he's a baller. I'm done underestimating him.
(02-04-2022, 07:06 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]...MAYBE. I think he's pretty overrated, but the potential is good, I'll admit.
Idk, though. I really value pnr ball-handlers who can score. I think it's the #1 thing to have in the NBA right now.
Doesn’t matter. No way the Knicks are trading RJ for Brunson.
(02-04-2022, 07:49 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]As you’ll recall, Mr. Voulgaris was not retained as part of Mark Cuban’s brain trust (I was also LYING).
Did you watch the recent game against Phoenix? Brunson really struggled against their lengthy defenders. I think the Batum-lockdown in the playoffs was more the pattern than an anomaly. How about we watch tonight when Thybulle spends time on Brunson and come back here for healthy discussion? Deal? Deal.
I like that Brunson shot 62% from the field (8/13) and 50% from deep (1/2) with 5 rebounds in the game he “really struggled” in.
I do get your point. Dude had 6 TOs and only 1 assist. That counts as a struggle. But his 19 points on 13 shots doesn’t suck. When THJ struggles, by contrast, it’s something more like
2/12 (1/4) for 8 points (Nov. 21 @ Clippers)
4/10 (1/6) for 9 (Dec. 8 @ Grizzlies)
2/8 (1/4) for 6 (Jan. 3 vs. Nuggets)
Will be watching for Thybulle matchup tonight. Like your willingness to call your shot.
(02-04-2022, 05:17 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]You missed the part about needing a FRP or two and the potential Bullock/Ingles swap (more of a go for it move by Utah). We'd need to gut the team to make the trade happen as they'd want picks immediately, not 4+ years from now. KP's injury concerns would make them hesitate of course but they always need to be careful about who they trade for as player retention in Utah is difficult.
Re: Gobert, he's definitely an immature dick as evidenced by his COVID media incident.
If you are doing injury for injury, why not KP?
Please don't forget about him crying when he made his 1st All Star team. I mean who does that? Draymond Green is still clowning him for it.
(02-04-2022, 07:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not proposing building the team around Brunson. I am saying that he's clearly the second best player on the team, and that it's not close. If he's soaking up one of the better, longer defenders the opposing team has to throw, I say "Good! Keep that guy off of Luka."
And, I don't think Brunson is anywhere near a finished product. I think regardless of what happened in a few games here or there, or what happens tonight, he's a baller. I'm done underestimating him.
This game was proof of that, not every team will have two long defenders to throw at him and Luka.
Brunson took it to Maxey tonight though as Maxey was on skates when Brunson ISO'd his ass.
Like I said, Brunson is a championship piece, DFS is as well as he is a junkyard dog type of guy. He is just not a starter so the Mavs need to figure out how to upgrade him or maybe bring him off the bench and start Bullock.
Luka - Brunson tandem is amazing. They play and fit together so incredibly well. If we keep the two, and hit the other pieces around them, this team will win many many championships. That being said, we need a player in between the level at where Luka is and where Brunson is. A consistent offensive machine that delivers every game and takes some of the load off Luka. We cant have Luka take this much offensive load. Needs to decrease slightly and Lukas defense will become elite then. With three offensive consistent players, we will run most of the teams out of the game and contend for the title each season.
(02-05-2022, 10:03 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/26...nney-Smith
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(02-05-2022, 10:03 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Dorian, but a lottery pick? That would be a very nice asset to have next offseason. You’d have to try to replace part of Dorian’s production with the TPE, but this is tempting.
I think trading DFS for a pick would signal a give-up on
this season. I get that many around here would do just that, but not doing so is probably the right move.
Good to have some idea of what his value is, however (if this is even true).
(02-05-2022, 10:03 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: [ -> ]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/26...nney-Smith
I love Dorian, but a lottery pick? That would be a very nice asset to have next offseason. You’d have to try to replace part of Dorian’s production with the TPE, but this is tempting.
This is a pretty weak draft in the mid to late lottery. At least that is what I believe. Not saying there won't be good players available, but I think the talent in this draft is a little down than previous years. Just my take though.
Who knows if this is true...but what team would offer a lottery pick. Probably would need to be a good team. Memphis? Atlanta?
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