Wood's last 10 games...
32.6 mins
20.8 pts
8.6 rbds
1.7 asts
0.7 stls
2.2 blks
53.6 FG%
40.6 3P%
75.0 FT%
66.0 TS%
On Offensive Rating: 120.6
Off Offensive Rating: 110.5
On/Off Offensive Rating: +10.1
On Defensive Rating: 112.4
Off Defensive Rating: 113.3
On/Off Defensive Rating: +0.9
On-Court Net Rating: +8.2
Off-Court Net Rating: -2.8
On/Off Net Rating: +11.0
Price keeps going up and up.
It’s gonna be Brunson all over again.
We’ll hear stories this off-season about he “he was never going to accept 4/77 anyway” once he signs for 4/100 so,where. Then we’ll find out the Mavs never even offered it because they were trying to trade him.
(01-02-2023, 11:16 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]Price keeps going up and up.
And yet the Mavs FO is just merely "open" for an extension.
(01-02-2023, 11:23 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]It’s gonna be Brunson all over again.
We’ll hear stories this off-season about he “he was never going to accept 4/77 anyway” once he signs for 4/100 so,where. Then we’ll find out the Mavs never even offered it because they were trying to trade him.
If there's no extension, then they can't afford not to trade Wood.
He'd probably net someone much less, and it's going to be disappointing downgrade, but at least they'd get something.
No way Wood hits free agency and re-signs back with the Mavs.
The Mavs can't afford to let Wood go at this point. They're not trading for anyone as good or better than him.
(01-02-2023, 11:43 PM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]The Mavs can't afford to let Wood go at this point.
I would quibble with "at this point." Nothing has changed. From the moment Wood was traded for he was the 2nd most talented player on the team and the Mavs cannot afford to let the 2nd most talented player go. Just because Kidd acted like Wood wasn't the 2nd most talented player for most of the season so far, does not change the reality. Wood has been a must keep from the get go unless they can find a trade that nets them an equally or more talented player than him.
I was considering going nuclear on the hater’s after Wood has some great performances vs good teams in the next several games.
Instead, I will shout out the other early believers.
Congratulations to KillerLeft, Kamm, Razzmatazz, probably a few others I’m missing and of course - myself, for realizing the obvious.
To those trying to justify the horseshit we saw regarding Wood’s playing time and role… LOL.
(01-03-2023, 12:05 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Just because Kidd acted like Wood wasn't the 2nd most talented player for most of the season so far
I will never understand what the hell he was thinking. Really broke my trust in him
(01-03-2023, 12:05 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I would quibble with "at this point." Nothing has changed. From the moment Wood was traded for he was the 2nd most talented player on the team and the Mavs cannot afford to let the 2nd most talented player go. Just because Kidd acted like Wood wasn't the 2nd most talented player for most of the season so far, does not change the reality. Wood has been a must keep from the get go unless they can find a trade that nets them an equally or more talented player than him.
For a time, when Wood was glued to the bench, I kind of thought we might as well trade him since Kidd will never maximize him anyway and he'll just leave. But now that Wood is starting and flourishing, we absolutely need to keep him. There's zero reason to think someone like John Collins would be as good, let alone better, on this team.
I don't see what's the big deal about Collins anyway. He just dunks a lot, and most games he kinda disappears. I would have thought he would be a consistent sidekick to Trae Young, but it hasn't happened. One player they do miss is Kevin Huerter. They never should have traded him.
(01-02-2023, 02:41 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Wood's last 10 games...
32.6 mins
20.8 pts
8.6 rbds
1.7 asts
0.7 stls
2.2 blks
53.6 FG%
40.6 3P%
75.0 FT%
66.0 TS%
On Offensive Rating: 120.6
Off Offensive Rating: 110.5
On/Off Offensive Rating: +10.1
On Defensive Rating: 112.4
Off Defensive Rating: 113.3
On/Off Defensive Rating: +0.9
On-Court Net Rating: +8.2
Off-Court Net Rating: -2.8
On/Off Net Rating: +11.0
Interesting piece of data that I don't have time to dig into today. B-Ref and NBA.com apparently have very different methodologies for calculating O-Rating, D-Rating and Net. B-Ref uses a formula developed by Dean Oliver that is supposed to focus on the obvious miscues made by the player in question. I believe NBA.com is more about the actual points scored/allowed per 100 possession while said player is in the game.
In 10 games as a starter, NBA.com has Wood as 118.4/118.7 for a net of -0.2 (bench 25 games was 114.9/109.6 for a net of 5.3)
In 10 games as a starter B-Reference has Wood as 122/112 for a net of +8 (bench 25 games was 111/113 for a net of -2)
It makes sense that NBA.com would show a different story. Wood is +4 in total +/- in the 10 games as a starter the way NBA.com calculates +/-. The team has a winning margin of 5 points in those games. What I don't know is what to think about Dean Oliver's methodology and why it is so different than the actual game results.
To be fair, Wood's numbers as a starter and the team's numbers during those starts are really skewed by the Chicago blowout that Luka missed. The more recent 9 starts in a row paint a more positive picture, but nowhere near as positive as the B-Reference numbers paint.
When KP was here, I thought the most important/toughest position to fill was the PF position. He would need to be able to fit in with both Luka and KP. Hit open shots, guard the perimeter but also guard in the post. Not be a top two option on offense but capable of scoring when needed. Be a good rebounder. etc. It is a lot for one person.
You could make the same case that this is still very important if Wood is a part of our future. I am not sure who this player is. Some would say Maxi and yes Maxi has a lot of these traits. But I view Maxi as a supporting part. There are several of these high tier players entering the league recently, but they have been top 5 picks.
(01-03-2023, 08:50 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting piece of data that I don't have time to dig into today. B-Ref and NBA.com apparently have very different methodologies for calculating O-Rating, D-Rating and Net. B-Ref uses a formula developed by Dean Oliver that is supposed to focus on the obvious miscues made by the player in question. I believe NBA.com is more about the actual points scored/allowed per 100 possession while said player is in the game.
In 10 games as a starter, NBA.com has Wood as 118.4/118.7 for a net of -0.2 (bench 25 games was 114.9/109.6 for a net of 5.3)
In 10 games as a starter B-Reference has Wood as 122/112 for a net of +8 (bench 25 games was 111/113 for a net of -2)
It makes sense that NBA.com would show a different story. Wood is +4 in total +/- in the 10 games as a starter the way NBA.com calculates +/-. The team has a winning margin of 5 points in those games. What I don't know is what to think about Dean Oliver's methodology and why it is so different than the actual game results.
To be fair, Wood's numbers as a starter and the team's numbers during those starts are really skewed by the Chicago blowout that Luka missed. The more recent 9 starts in a row paint a more positive picture, but nowhere near as positive as the B-Reference numbers paint.
My numbers are straight from NBA.com. Where did you see those numbers on NBA.com? Can you link to the specific page?
(01-03-2023, 09:08 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]When KP was here, I thought the most important/toughest position to fill was the PF position. He would need to be able to fit in with both Luka and KP. Hit open shots, guard the perimeter but also guard in the post. Not be a top two option on offense but capable of scoring when needed. Be a good rebounder. etc. It is a lot for one person.
You could make the same case that this is still very important if Wood is a part of our future. I am not sure who this player is. Some would say Maxi and yes Maxi has a lot of these traits. But I view Maxi as a supporting part. There are several of these high tier players entering the league recently, but they have been top 5 picks.
Agreed that putting a forward next to Wood is important, the same way it was with KP.
But, I don't think it's AS TOUGH to find the right one, as KP's lack of mobility really caused problems and this naturally had to have an impact on other decisions. To me, you can make a much wider range of players work next to Wood, who can run and move as well as anyone (at the 5).
(01-03-2023, 10:20 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed that putting a forward next to Wood is important, the same way it was with KP.
But, I don't think it's AS TOUGH to find the right one, as KP's lack of mobility really caused problems and this naturally had to have an impact on other decisions. To me, you can make a much wider range of players work next to Wood, who can run and move as well as anyone (at the 5).
What further made it difficult to build with KP was the fact that, at least in Dallas, he was so frustratingly fragile. This year he has finally been in the lineup with great regularity, but the prior 2 seasons he would only be on the floor to contribute about half the games.
Wood has been available almost every game, and that's his history as well. That helps a lot.