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(10-30-2022, 10:12 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I think Wood should be playing more, but you can make the case now is the time you have his best attention.   So, if there is a bigger picture in all this, I can understand it.    Although, it will tricky and will require both the coach and player to work together to a common goal.

As I look at our team currently what makes it tricky is we really don't have a closing 5.   Heck we might just have a closing 1.   Last year, at the end you had Luka, Brunson and DFS.   Typically Bullock or Din would be the other player with a big.    I think DFS should still be closing but right now it is all a little clunky and there has not been separation with most of the guys on who should be closing.   So it can be difficult for a coach because it is easy to question after the fact.   Again, I think Wood should be playing more, but I would be interested to know the full story behind the scenes.   Also, it pains me watching everyone watching Luka late in games.    Is this the way we think it is the best to play?   He is great and should take a lot of our important shots.  I just hate how we get there.

I can buy the long game argument to some degree, but I am struggling to see how Kidd calling out Wood for last nights game a positive contribution to the long game.
(10-30-2022, 10:12 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I think Wood should be playing more, but you can make the case now is the time you have his best attention.   So, if there is a bigger picture in all this, I can understand it.    Although, it will tricky and will require both the coach and player to work together to a common goal.

As I look at our team currently what makes it tricky is we really don't have a closing 5.  

I’m in agreement with Wood getting 28 or so.  Much more than that is difficult without him getting a lot of solo-big minutes.

Didn’t we just go on a pretty nice playoff run with Maxi/DFS/Bullock and Luka as four of our five closers.  Brunson was the other (though Dinwiddie did get the call a few times). Both Brunson and Dinwiddie were pretty clutch when surrounded by the other four.

Where we are now is we have 3-4 candidates for the job and none have really proven worthy (of course, two weeks in last season, Brunson hadn’t claimed the mantle yet either).  I think you can close with Wood, but he has to be paired with Maxi.  I think you can clearly close with Dinwiddie, Luka and the three defenders.  He proved capable of it last season.  I’m less enamored with THJ as a closer.  The fourth possibility is Green.  I’d love to seem him closing second quarters with regularity in preparation for future game closeouts.  Who knows if he will be ready for the job this season.

What is the saying, if you have two candidates for starting quarterback, you probably don’t have any (since neither is good enough to put his competitor away).  If you have four candidates for the 5th closer, you probably don’t have the one you really need yet.
(10-30-2022, 03:12 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]I am struggling to see how Kidd calling out Wood for last nights game a positive contribution to the long game.


For real. I'm all for expecting Wood to rise above past immaturities and tough through things like a pro, along with demanding results. 

But my goodness, do we need to make doing so more difficult for him than we make it for the others? That seems like asking for trouble that the team doesn't need.
(10-30-2022, 04:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I’m in agreement with Wood getting 28 or so.  Much more than that is difficult without him getting a lot of solo-big minutes.


Absolutely correct!!!!

Which is why he NEEDS to be playing those minutes. Don't get me wrong - you expect him to play well on defense, and if he doesn't, you let him know about it. BUT, you'd be coaching him hard from a position wherein he feels like he's getting an opportunity to play starter minutes (even if coming off the bench) on a good team in a contract year. That's soooooooo much better than "hey, CWood, I've decided that you're a 6th man now, playing bench minutes, right before your free agent summer. I hope that's fine." 

If he can't do it, you move on, but he'll be extremely motivated to figure it out this year...so he can get paid.

My interest in Wood as a bench minute, won't work in the playoffs forward who dazzles with stretches of offensive dominance is sooooo much less than my interest in him as a cornerstone piece of the team around which they can build. I think where we diverge is that the relative likelihoods of those goals being successful doesn't really factor into my thoughts on which path to choose. One is worth tying, even if far-fetched, while the other feels utterly pointless to me. 

And you know what? Even if you (and the Mavs) are correct, and a big, slow, bench forward (because he absolutely can't play starter minutes at forward for a good team in the playoffs, that's a simple fact) is all he's qualified to be, I feel confident that HE won't just accept that. So, if they keep this up, I sure hope they trade him at the deadline or this might be Brunson 2.0.
(10-30-2022, 04:42 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]For real. I'm all for expecting Wood to rise above past immaturities and tough through things like a pro, along with demanding results. 

But my goodness, do we need to make doing so more difficult for him than we make it for the others? That seems like asking for trouble that the team doesn't need.

Yeah I wouldn't want to come back next year if I was him if another team offered a contract anywhere near the one we offer
So much weirdness and disdain shown towards him since he got here
It’s pretty simple… Don’t get attached to Christian Wood..
(10-30-2022, 03:12 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]I can buy the long game argument to some degree, but I am struggling to see how Kidd calling out Wood for last nights game a positive contribution to the long game.

Yeah, I can't get behind the after the game comments.  As I said yesterday, I thought that was BS.  I seemed like Kidd had been hearing things about playing time with Wood and made a point to bring that up.    Coming into the season, I should have had my antennas up is last year was the exception for Kidd.   I still want to hope it is who he is after his great year last year.  But I was really doubtful going into last year.   Going into this year, I literary gave it no thought.  

I am hoping this is a similar thing that Bullock went through last year. Bullock had a weird start last year.  Couldn't hit anything but also wasn't getting a ton of playing time.   Only to finish the year as one of the highest minute players.   I really hope that this is something similar.
Kidd is giving me an Avery Johnson flashback as someone letting ego interfere with coaching.
(10-26-2022, 07:03 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]Free agency starts

Brunson gone 

Only player with any interest in signing with us is JaVale fucking McGee

Have to sign somebody 

Promise McShaqtin starting spot

Forgot you traded for Wood

Start narrative about Wood’s attitude and how he needs to buy in

Announce Wood as 6th man

Wood plays great and does whatever he is asked

McShaqtin plays terrible 

(We are here) Wood remains positive, monster offense with decent defense despite still learning system

JaShaqtin still terrible 

Wood still doing whatever the team needs

IamDougieFresh seriously starts to prefer Dwight to McShaqtin

Team isn’t doing well

Wood can’t get into the starting lineup despite all star level play

Wood starts to get frustrated… SEE WE TOLD YOU WOOD HAD AN ATTITUDE PROBLEM

Holy shit we are already here -> IamDougieFresh seriously starts to prefer Dwight to McShaqtin

Absolute joke of a franchise.
I hate where this Wood thing is heading.  This is his 3rd awful game after starting so strong.  It feels like Kidd has started a pissing contest and is on his way to lose Wood.
There's almost no plays called for Wood.
It's almost by design.
What they are doing to him disgusts me.
In the last 3 games, Wood has 21 attempts.
THJ has 35, 20 of those are 3s.
Clearly the coaching staff prefers chucking 3s than what Wood has to offer.
If things continue as they are, I expect Wood to either be traded or leave in the off-season and Kidd to be fired. Kidd is the problem with this team, not the players.
(10-31-2022, 09:51 AM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]If things continue as they are, I expect Wood to either be traded or leave in the off-season and Kidd to be fired. Kidd is the problem with this team, not the players.

Can you see Cuban or Nico making that call?  Cuban would have to eat Kidd's contract and Nico would have to show more assertiveness than we've seen thus far.
From eye test, Wood was clearly the second best player on the team.  He has very good handles for his size.  He does have moments where he plays out of control.  His defense has been better than McGee's and when he's tried it has been good.  He reminds me of Karl Anthony Towns.  Him playing 25mpg off the bench is ridiculous especially with Luka carrying the team on offense.  Luka's usage will really break him down over time. People wonder why free agents don't want to join Dallas?  This is it, who wants to waste their career standing a the 3 point line and watch Luka dribble the ball to death.  Bullock and DFS usage is also too much.  Green and Wood are the only players with growth potential.  All  bad choices and Kidd's body language is all arrogance.
(10-31-2022, 01:44 PM)haveitall Wrote: [ -> ]Kidd's body language is all arrogance


This is the most concerning thing. I thought last year he had learned humility and it was going to serve him well. One miraculous run to the WCF and holy crap, the "old coach Kidd" is back.
(10-31-2022, 10:22 AM)WildArkieBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Can you see Cuban or Nico making that call?  Cuban would have to eat Kidd's contract and Nico would have to show more assertiveness than we've seen thus far.

I wasn't considering how cheap Cuban is. You are probably correct. Kidd is at least here to stay until his contract is up.
I’m gonna be sick.

https://twitter.com/xmuzart/status/15876...07488?s=46&t=fI4tkTK4YnkhfPwgm-3Ing
Not only does Kidd magnifies Wood's weakness on D, but he also doesn't take advantage of CWood's time on the floor.
It's clear that besides Luka, only Wood can create for himself consistently.
Kidd can make the case for THJ, but THJ creates for himself by merely shooting every time he gets it -- anyone can do that.
SD can at spurts, but it's different with Wood.
Giving the ball to Wood, you have the sense that he's going to get something.
In contrast, SD and specially THJ feels like they are hoisting hail marys.

If I were to guess based on what I'm seeing, Kidd wants Wood to be the 5th option on offense.
Luka > THJ > SD > Dorian+Bullock+Maxi camping at the 3 > Wood
So basically, --- Kidd right now: Jump shooting > Wood's play.