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(11-21-2022, 11:03 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/sixfivelando/status/...0791326720

Tell us you don't like CWood without telling us you don't like CWood.
Pretty poor explanation by Kidd but but honestly if Bertans is on fire from 3 you really can't take him out until he misses one. And it's REALLY hard to say the Mavs lost because Wood didn't play enough when the guy who played in his place was +21.
Kidd: Earn your minutes
Also Kidd: Promises McGee of a starting spot
(11-21-2022, 11:32 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: [ -> ]Kidd: Earn your minutes
Also Kidd: Promises McGee of a starting spot

Kidd began with McGee as a starter. Obviously he expected he would be the right center for the opening that was available. As they went along, did McGee earn minutes? And then what happened?

If Bertans keeps lighting it up, and Kleber comes back healthy, it should be interesting. I don't think any big gets any guarantees, but if a lot of them are playing well, then the push for minutes for those who play up to it may slide into squeezes at other positions too. (For example, if DFS gets fewer at PF, but then takes some away at SF, and you have whole ripple effect.) It could become a good problem to have, especially when some are playing like suck (see Hardaway, T and Bullock, R).
(11-21-2022, 11:44 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]It could become a good problem to have, especially when some are playing like suck (see Hardaway, T and Bullock, R).

In the short term?  Sure.  In the long term?  I guess that depends if they consider Wood part of the long term.  We know Christian considers himself a max type player and at times this season, I wouldn't argue against that sentiment.  There is almost no chance his next contract is anywhere near that, but I'm sure his next deal will be heavily weighted on having the opportunity to prove he is that level of player.  

Agree with the sentiment though.  And after the trade deadline, I try my best not to play THJ anymore and Bullock too if he doesn't get out of his slump (willing to give the benefit of the doubt here though).
(11-21-2022, 11:44 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]Kidd began with McGee as a starter. Obviously he expected he would be the right center for the opening that was available. As they went along, did McGee earn minutes? And then what happened?

Kidd promised McGee of a starting spot.
If he hasn't promised him, he went away and did it anyway.
McGee wasn't in last season's roster.

Did McGee earned his starting spot during practice? I'm going to assume that's a NO.
If Kidd said McGee is starting for strategic purposes that would have been communicated well.

Point is -- McGee didn't earn his starting spot. And Kidd talks about earning minutes.
And let's not even talk about how THJ or RB has "earned" their minutes so far.
(11-21-2022, 11:32 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: [ -> ]Earn your minutes


Apparently having the 2nd highest scoring rate on the team, the 2nd highest efficiency, the 3rd highest true shooting percentage, and the 2nd highest on/off +/- impact on the team doesn't cut it. 

Give. Me. A. Break.
(11-21-2022, 11:44 PM)F Gump Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think any big gets any guarantees, but it a lot are playing well, then the push for minutes for those who play up to it may slide into squeezes at other positions too.


That's the good and bad of this roster. It's deep with good but not great rotation players. It's like the opposite of those Laker squads they fielded when the season opened. Three stars and NO rotation players.

So in Dallas you have 10 guys who can play but there's not much separation between them. Bertans vs Wood last night is the perfect example. If all Player X is going to give you is efficient scoring, who the hell cares what name is on the jersey? Bertans scored 15 points in 14 minutes on 7 shots. But is anyone talking about starting Bertans? Of course not.
(11-21-2022, 11:03 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/sixfivelando/status/...0791326720

I like and agree with the overall philosophy that Kidd mentions here. However, Kidd didn't follow this very same philosophy, at very least in the last game, but probably in several games. We would have won the last game if Wood played more. Probably people know i'm not the biggest fans of +/-. But what people mention about Woods stats on this thread, I believe in this particular case really fully translates and these stats are really at least mostly due to Woods exceptional skills. Im not sure if the Dallas coaches have developed some complex psychological condition, called KP trauma, and are just inherently afraid Wood will be KP v2.0 without any real reason for it. But really, Wood is all KP was not and we hoped he would be, this is as clear as it can be. In the worst case, by acting like this, they can potentially force Wood to become a KP v.2.0.

I'm convinced Wood doesn't know the defensive scheme. Yes, but his overall play is so great that we win the games if he plays more. So, follow the philosophy. He has earned the minutes!
The same people who decided Wood isn't good enough to start, also decided McGee was good enough to start. Occam's Razor answer is that this franchise is simply incompetent and dysfunctional.
(11-22-2022, 02:02 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]this franchise is simply incompetent and dysfunctional.

I think we can all agree on this.
(11-22-2022, 02:02 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]The same people who decided Wood isn't good enough to start, also decided McGee was good enough to start. Occam's Razor answer is that this franchise is simply incompetent and dysfunctional.

Yet, blessed with two generational players(with a Mark overrule on a third, Giannis) "discovered" and pursued by the Nelsons.
(11-22-2022, 08:58 AM)WildArkieBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Yet, blessed with two generational players(with a Mark overrule on a third, Giannis) "discovered" and pursued by the Nelsons.

For many years Donnie was the GM in the league with the best connections in europe (especially eastern europe). Going all the way back to his time in Lithuania. But just like the advantage some of the analytics driven teams had in the 00s the league quickly caught up.
When he started global scouting networks were a rarity. Today most NBA teams have multiple guys working all around the globe.
(11-21-2022, 05:32 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]I’m ACTUALLY going to do a video LATE tonight or tomorrow of every Wood defensive possession that he was involved in. 

I’ve already cut up the clips from the game. I’ll say this as a teaser: There are BAD possessions that are for sure Wood’s fault. There are GREAT possessions that show his defensive potential. A lot of the possessions are miscommunications by multiple players and a lot of what seems to be unnecessary double teams putting us at a disadvantage.

I'm a little delayed, my brothers in Christ.
The worlds most confused man realizing Wood is him

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...52327?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...29472?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...57122?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg
I have to commend Kidd for having Wood out there and having plays for him.
I was a bit anxious of what Kidd would do after the lazy pass that resulted in a steal, that one drive which Wood gave away an and-1 and those offensive fouls Wood was making.
Glad Kidd got him back in when I was expecting long stretches where Wood would sit.
(11-23-2022, 10:55 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]The worlds most confused man realizing Wood is him

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...52327?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...29472?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1595...57122?s=46&t=3yul5AbJSd613LwnAhr2Zg

While ruminating on Kidd's reluctance to make full use of CWood, this wild thought came into my mind:  Is it possible that bringing in McGee was Kidd's idea while obtaining CWood came from Nico?

WAB
(11-24-2022, 09:22 AM)WildArkieBoy Wrote: [ -> ]While ruminating on Kidd's reluctance to make full use of CWood, this wild thought came into my mind:  Is it possible that bringing in McGee was Kidd's idea while obtaining CWood came from Nico?

WAB


Yes, yes, yes. This has been my theory and piecing together of what we know as well. I still think it is the best explanation of what we know. Doesn't mean it is right, but it sure feels right from what I know.
(11-24-2022, 10:20 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, yes, yes. This has been my theory and piecing together of what we know as well. I still think it is the best explanation of what we know. Doesn't mean it is right, but it sure feels right from what I know.

I'm with FGump on this (though I'll try to come across in a less caustic manner).   The easy explanation is Wood makes a lot of mistakes.  The coach would like him to make fewer mistakes.  The only real control the coach has is controlling minutes until Wood starts doing fewer bad things.  I think Kidd is actually protecting Wood by holding down how much he is exposed to starting bigs.  The GM said from day one that Wood would need to prove it.  I don't see a conflict there.  Even if there was a conflict, our ability to determine that from anything other than supposition is just about nil.

I also think the theory that Kidd is willing to undermine his own self-interest to 'teach Wood a lesson' is a non-starter (get it Smile ).  It is perfectly logical that Kidd might be taking a longer term view than those of us who judge this on a game by game basis.  The longer view being Dallas might actually have a gem on their hands if they can just get Wood to be in the right spot and play within the system.

As illustrated in my game post, the two blowout wins really skew the +/- numbers for Wood.  Outside of those two games, his net impact is about net neutral (which underperforms the team and comes mostly against back-ups).  I'm with you that it is probably time to give him a shot despite the shortcomings.  I'm very much against simply putting him in as a Powell replacement with the other four current starters.  If someone really wants Wood to succeed, Maxi and Green need to go in with Wood in place of Powell, Bullock and Dinwiddie.  Luka, Green, DFS, Wood and Maxi is out highest upside lineup.  There is no guarantee it will work, but what we are doing now isn't working all that well either.
(11-24-2022, 10:41 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I'm with FGump on this (though I'll try to come across in a less caustic manner).   The easy explanation is Wood makes a lot of mistakes.  The coach would like him to make fewer mistakes.  The only real control the coach has is controlling minutes until Wood starts doing fewer bad things.  I think Kidd is actually protecting Wood by holding down how much he is exposed to starting bigs.  The GM said from day one that Wood would need to prove it.  I don't see a conflict there.  Even if there was a conflict, our ability to determine that from anything other than supposition is just about nil.

I also think the theory that Kidd is willing to undermine his own self-interest to 'teach Wood a lesson' is a non-starter (get it Smile ).  It is perfectly logical that Kidd might be taking a longer term view than those of us who judge this on a game by game basis.  The longer view being Dallas might actually have a gem on their hands if they can just get Wood to be in the right spot and play within the system.

As illustrated in my game post, the two blowout wins really skew the +/- numbers for Wood.  Outside of those two games, his net impact is about net neutral (which underperforms the team and comes mostly against back-ups).  I'm with you that it is probably time to give him a shot despite the shortcomings.  I'm very much against simply putting him in as a Powell replacement with the other four current starters.  If someone really wants Wood to succeed, Maxi and Green need to go in with Wood in place of Powell, Bullock and Dinwiddie.  Luka, Green, DFS, Wood and Maxi is out highest upside lineup.  There is no guarantee it will work, but what we are doing now isn't working all that well either.

I agree. Excellent post.