(06-17-2022, 07:25 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Didn’t mean any offense.
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Yeah, not at all. No offense taken. It's not me. I am Luke, but not that one.
Reading Ziga Samar profile and I just don't understand why he is so low, undrafted in most drafts. Seems the guy has high BBIQ, can pass, shoot and defend. Perhaps his ceiling is not that high, but seems like floor is really decent.
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Being a Mavs fan....where draft threads go to die
(06-18-2022, 12:34 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Being a Mavs fan....where draft threads go to die
I was thinking about adding Friday the 24th to my upcoming holiday, but then I figured what´s the point.
(06-18-2022, 05:51 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Reading Ziga Samar profile and I just don't understand why he is so low, undrafted in most drafts. Seems the guy has high BBIQ, can pass, shoot and defend. Perhaps his ceiling is not that high, but seems like floor is really decent.
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Hollinger has him at 38, but that is the first I have heard of him. He is from Slovenia as well? His shot looks beautiful. I can understand the concerns about athleticism. Good size too.
Follows the Dallas Mavs on Instragram too.
(06-18-2022, 12:34 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Being a Mavs fan....where draft threads go to die
We will all be right here waiting for something to happen. Hoping for some kind of miracle move. First round ends without anything happening. Won´t stop the pipe dream. Afterall the Mavs could always buy a late 2nd. Let´s just ignore that they never do it. Second round ends without any Mavs move. A few minutes later they announce a random undrafted player as a camp/summer league body. We will get hyped. Convince ourself that random camp body xyz (insert name, let´s say EJ Onu) is a steal.
(06-18-2022, 12:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Hollinger has him at 38, but that is the first I have heard of him. He is from Slovenia as well? His shot looks beautiful. I can understand the concerns about athleticism. Good size too.
Follows the Dallas Mavs on Instragram too.
Yes, he is Slovenian.
I assume that there is no more talk about him because, he was some kind of ''late bloomer'' this season. He went to Real Madrid school like Luka did, but he didn't get a chance there (like many others), so then he decide to sign with Fuenlabrada (first spanish league), so basically this was his first season as a pro in the highest (european) level.
Last summer also had surgery in his arm so he missed U20 european championship and missed first few game of the season because of it.
Then he finally get a chance and he really took it well. I think at the beggining of the season he was at the first mostly looking that he is not doing mistakes and then when he gained starting 5 and a trust from the coach he become much more relaxed. A good thing was also that the more minutes he was getting, the more wins were for Fuenlabrada and at the end of the season he also earned chanting his name from Fuenlabrada fans.
I previusly expected that he will stay in europe for another 1 season for a better spot in the draft, but it looks like he will attend this years draft.
As a player in my opinion he have pontetial to become starting playmaker in the team. He don't need the ball in his head to be efficient (his teammates in Fuenlabrada were taking much more shoots the him), decision making and IQ, vission is also high, defense is there, shoot is there...
He really have all the tools you would want from a pg, but i think he will need some time to get used to Nba style of play.
(06-18-2022, 10:55 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Quick scouting reports of some second round/Undrafted guys. A few fat guys and one skinny one.
https://youtu.be/84ow2uyty60
Quick for 7'1", can shoot from 3, blocks shots, can handle the ball a bit.
He is basically a very tall stretch 4.
Would fit nicely with the Mavs.
Would take 2 years to be in the rotation though, but would be nice to have this kid when Maxi begins to slow down.
I don't think he is going to be undrafted though.
The kid just needs to add muscle, his floor is a 3 and D big, but can be so much more. I actually see a taller less coordinated Christian Wood in him.
(06-18-2022, 11:43 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: [ -> ]Quick for 7'1", can shoot from 3, blocks shots, can handle the ball a bit.
He is basically a very tall stretch 4.
Would fit nicely with the Mavs.
Would take 2 years to be in the rotation though, but would be nice to have this kid when Maxi begins to slow down.
I don't think he is going to be undrafted though.
The kid just needs to add muscle, his floor is a 3 and D big, but can be so much more. I actually see a taller less coordinated Christian Wood in him.
He may need more than two years. He looked so far off playing in college this year. But I agree, it wouldn't surprise me to see a team draft him for a two-way spot. Him Nzosa, Diabate, Peyton Watson, JD Davision, Lofton Jr and Caleb Houson are some the guys I am surprised that stayed in the draft. I am trying to find out which ones had some kind of true expectation that they will be drafted and which ones got bad advice or out of touch expectations. In theory, each could really raise their draft profile with another year and more growth.
Looking at the Mavs, we have a small sample size. Last year, they signed Eugene O and JaQuori as their initial two way guys. Both guys were older seniors (23-24). When Eugene got hurt they eventually signed Pinson and then eventually signed another older college player in Moses Wright (23 years old). So it will be interesting to see if either/both are back next year. If not, do the Mavs again look for older, more developed players. They had worked out both Eugene and Moses Wright prior to the draft. As well as Moses' college teammate in Alvarado.
He also had a really disappointing season in Spain.
(06-19-2022, 11:31 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Vrenzzz/status/15385...Dk8dkqAAAA
Who remembers this kid from last years draft? Curious to see how he does in the summer league.
I´m honestly of the opinion, that if you really believe in a foreign player, you bring him over right away. Otherwise it´s just a way to avoid uncomfortable discussions with some young person (and their agent), that just bailed on/finished US college and has no job.
The only draft picks that came over later were already established European stars at the time they were picked like Ginobili, Scola or Bogdan Bogdanovic.
(06-19-2022, 11:31 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Vrenzzz/status/15385...Dk8dkqAAAA
Who remembers this kid from last years draft? Curious to see how he does in the summer league.
One of the strangest pre draft campaigns in recent years. With agents and media team creating a hype train for a more or less unknown player. To the point where fans and even some experts around the league viewed him as a first round talent. In the end no team fell for it. Fun story.
(06-19-2022, 11:31 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Who remembers this kid from last years draft? Curious to see how he does in the summer league.
Vrenz!! I was on his hype train. Still think he has NBA talent....but not sure he has the other intangibles necessary.
(06-19-2022, 12:50 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]One of the strangest pre draft campaigns in recent years. With agents and media team creating a hype train for a more or less unknown player. To the point where fans and even some experts around the league viewed him as a first round talent. In the end no team fell for it. Fun story.
Absolutely such a strange pre-draft campaign. I remember the hype and can't believe he didn't get picked even in the late 2nd round. It was surprising to me how quickly everyone moved on and didn't even give him a 2-way slot.
(06-19-2022, 01:07 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Vrenz!! I was on his hype train. Still think he has NBA talent....but not sure he has the other intangibles necessary.
I think this summer league might be the most important time for him. If he shows out I can see some teams throwing him a spot since he's still young.
(06-19-2022, 11:34 AM)MAVS-SLO Wrote: [ -> ]He also had a really disappointing season in Spain.
In my quick little google search of him I saw that he asked out of his contract himself! Weird thing to do especially if you're averaging 3 points a game on terrible efficiency. Maybe his agent was like "We got to get him somewhere where he can put up a massive amount of points" ?
(06-19-2022, 01:56 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]It was surprising to me how quickly everyone moved on and didn't even give him a 2-way slot.
He was in a contractual situation where he needed a normal contract, not two way.
(06-19-2022, 12:50 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]One of the strangest pre draft campaigns in recent years. With agents and media team creating a hype train for a more or less unknown player. To the point where fans and even some experts around the league viewed him as a first round talent. In the end no team fell for it. Fun story.
The days of Tskitishvili are over.
(06-19-2022, 02:22 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]The days of Tskitishvili are over.
Compared to the Bleijenbergh hype that was almost reasonable. 19 years old. Rotation player on a team that won the championship in Italy. Coached by a well known name...D´Antoni. Crazy trivia...same team produced another all time draft bust. Andrea Bargnani as the direct replacement for Tskitishvili.
I think the unique thing about the Bleijenbergh hype was the social media aspect. Have never seen a comparable media campaign for an unknown prospect. Go back 20 years and non of us even knows his name.