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Add this guy to my intriguing second round big.  I had heard the name Isaiah Mobley but never watched him play.  He is the older brother of Evan Mobley.  He is a completely different player as he is not a great athlete.  I was listening to a podcast and they mentioned how skilled he is.  Due to his athletic limitations, he is probably best served as a 4.  At 6’10 With a 7’3 wingspan, that is a big 4.

The pros to his game is that he moves his feet well On the perimeter, is a nice passer And his shot looks smooth.  The cons is he will probably struggle
If he is playing Mostly the 5.

Maybe a less athletic Maxi with better passing?

https://youtu.be/mN1S86h2DaQ
I have very mixed feelings on this list....

https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/stat...0542074881
Personally, I would be ecstatic about Jalen Williams (Santa Clara). I don’t believe he will slip out of the top 20.

I have zero interest in Walker Kessler.
RE: The Quality of this Draft Class

I was thinking about this draft class in relation to the last class I dug into real deep (2020 as I didn't dive into 2021 because of the Mavs having no pick). 

There are so many more players I like at #26 this year than there were players I liked at #18 in 2020. My evaluations could be off, but I think this is a pretty deep draft class post-lottery. 

My guess is that there will be quite a few NBA STARTERS that come post-lottery from this draft. I really hope the Mavs don't throw this pick away.
Quote:The 2022 NBA draft should bring solid talent into the league, but not nearly as much as the 2021 class. At least that's the buzz around the league, which described a gap after the first two or three prospects. Most expect the Orlando Magic to take Jabari Smith Jr. from Auburn and the Oklahoma City Thunder to select Gonzaga's Chet Holmgren second.

Some executives argue that Duke's Paolo Banchero is the clear third, destined for the Houston Rockets. Others suggest Jaden Ivey or Keegan Murray belong in the top three, with Banchero dropping. But the general vibe is that several lottery picks could be available in trade, starting with the Sacramento Kings at No. 4.

Teams looking to make the playoffs may want to upgrade their rosters with veteran players instead of prospects. Or they might try to trade up for more of a sure thing (if there is such a thing in the draft) like Ivey or Murray. That may include teams like the Portland Trail Blazers (No. 7), New Orleans Pelicans (No. 8), Washington Wizards (No. 10), New York Knicks (No. 11), Charlotte Hornets (No. 13) and Cleveland Cavaliers (No. 14). Even the Thunder, who have three first-round picks, may be open to moving No. 12.

More than half of the 14 lottery picks may be attainable, and interested teams are trying to determine where they can strike. Who will move up, down or out may not be apparent until draft day.

Some veteran trade targets might include Jerami Grant, Deandre Ayton (sign-and-trade), Rudy Gobert, Jalen Brunson (sign-and-trade) and Myles Turner. Since teams cannot agree to a sign-and-trade in June, a few may draft on faith that their trade target will be available in July, especially if faith equates to an illegal prearranged deal.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1003...fore-draft
From the Ringer:


Quote:League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection. One of the teams they’ve had talks with is Portland.
Latest Ringer mock draft:

15) Mark Williams
16) Eason
18) Liddell
20) Jovic
21) Jalen Williams
24) Kessler
26) Dalen Terry
28) Koloko
29) Beauchamp

The Mavs note:


Quote:Terry is a strong target for Dallas because not only does he bring 3-and-D qualities, he can also handle the ball a little bit. While Luka Doncic will always dominate the rock, having someone like Terry who can attack off the bounce and pass off the dribble can help spark dynamic offensive possessions filled with motion and ball movement.
(06-13-2022, 10:06 AM)Winter Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs schedule workout with Chinanu Onuaku

Dallas Mavericks schedule workout with Chinanu Onuaku: Could he solve center woes? (thesmokingcuban.com)

Interesting note, we actually had him for four days back in 2018 before we waived him, so technically this would be the return of a former Mav. 

Hot tempered guy. One got a suspension in G league for shoving a ref. Mainly known for shooting free throws underhanded
(06-13-2022, 12:12 PM)MrGoat Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting note, we actually had him for four days back in 2018 before we waived him, so technically this would be the return of a former Mav. 

Hot tempered guy. One got a suspension in G league for shoving a ref. Mainly known for shooting free throws underhanded

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(06-12-2022, 01:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, but do you honestly believe the money involved won't factor into the decision?

Missed this conversation but just to add two cents, I've been fully expecting Hardaway to be moved for nothing on draft night this entire time.  We keep treating him like a real asset in trade scenarios but it's much more likely that we use him (or Dinwiddie or Bertans) in a move where we attached assets so someone else will simply agree to take on the rest of the deal.  Could be as simple as attached Hardaway to our pick to pick at a different spot but knowing Cuban, he's definitely going to convert one of those 18 mil roster spots into a rookie contract.

Could still see us cutting one of those bench players to make room for another player if we find a good way to use that TPE.
(06-13-2022, 01:12 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]Missed this conversation but just to add two cents, I've been fully expecting Hardaway to be moved for nothing on draft night this entire time.  We keep treating him like a real asset in trade scenarios but it's much more likely that we use him (or Dinwiddie or Bertans) in a move where we attached assets so someone else will simply agree to take on the rest of the deal. 


1) I don't think they'll even try to do this. I think they might want to include Hardaway in a trade they think makes them better, but I don't agree that they'll just want to be rid of him enough to pay an asset to accomplish it. 

2) If they do want this, #26 is literally the only "asset" they could possibly attach to accomplish such a goal. You're talking about 3 years of guaranteed money leaving your books with nothing coming back. I'm honestly not sure #26 is enough to get that done. 

I think that would be awful, personally. That's literally the kind of thing I'd be trying to avoid. I assume your thinking here starts with skepticism that Cuban will even pay the tax for this one season?
(06-13-2022, 01:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]1) I don't think they'll even try to do this. I think they might want to include Hardaway in a trade they think makes them better, but I don't agree that they'll just want to be rid of him enough to pay an asset to accomplish it. 

2) If they do want this, #26 is literally the only "asset" they could possibly attach to accomplish such a goal. You're talking about 3 years of guaranteed money leaving your books with nothing coming back. I'm honestly not sure #26 is enough to get that done. 

I think that would be awful, personally. That's literally the kind of thing I'd be trying to avoid. I assume your thinking here starts with skepticism that Cuban will even pay the tax for this one season?

I think my skepticism comes from the idea that Cuban wants to at least pay as little tax as possible and he just watched a team without Hardaway get to the conference finals.  I agree that it may take the #26 pick to pull that off and if it comes to that I doubt (hope) they do it unless we're getting back a different pick in this first round, but I definitely think they may try to get it done with multiple second round picks or cash.  It may not be moving Hardaway for nothing but I definitely think that a move centered around Hardaway that allows us to retain the core that got us to the WCF and then add a player on a rookie contract (and potentially another one at the TPE pay level) is probably a better scenario in Cuban's mind then cutting Frank or Burke.  I understand that you can argue that adding Hardaway to that core is viewed as a positive but based on the rumors at the deadline and the success without him, I just assume he's as good as gone.  Not necessarily advocating for it...
(06-13-2022, 11:05 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Latest Ringer mock draft:

15) Mark Williams
16) Eason
18) Liddell
20) Jovic
21) Jalen Williams
24) Kessler
26) Dalen Terry
28) Koloko
29) Beauchamp

The Mavs note:

Denver - Jalen Williams at 21 and Jake LaRavia at 30. Wow.