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Braun seems like he is above average in defending water bug types. Quick on his feet and very disciplined. The quickness and smarts are negating what he lacks in reach.

His weakness is strength, shot creation and his handles are pretty average but good enough to blow by defenders on close outs. To simply put, he'd be one of the stand-around 3-D guys on the Mavs.

If the Mavs take him, he Frank and Green would fight over what's left of Bullock's role. And I can see Braun winning because of the would-be rookie's willingness to shoot and he shoots it well.

Good pick at 26, but I'm still hoping we get a big from the draft in addition to the probable underwhelming big they would get. As it stands right now, only Maxi and Powell are the legit bigs (reduced to Only Maxi in the play-offs of course).
I need to watch full games and see what the deal is...

Out of the probable players at 26...LaRavia, Braun, Liddell and maybe Koloko.

I like Braun's visible energy.  It seems like it could be infectious and good for team chemistry.
So if Agbaji falls to 26, do you take him no questions asked?   He had one great year and is a senior.  Sometimes those guys fall a little.   

What about TyTy Washington?  If he fell to 26, would you take him as well.

I was listening to a podcast, and one of the draft guys had Mark Williams at 12 and Jalen Duren at 14.  He said if you were San Antonio, he would rather take a wing with this first pick and hope a big maybe makes it to 20.   I don't see Duran dropping that much, but if he did he would be a guy I would be interested in moving up for, I think.   Just don't think we have the packages to move up.   He would be fantastic playing with Luka imo.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvfE-t3unyo
I would love Duren but he is sooo young. Definitely gives off some Bam vibes. Maybe not quite as “bendy”. Already a skilled passer in the short roll. Moves really well. Great frame to add strength without getting too bulky.
You draft Duren, and you have your starting center for next season. Pipedream.
(06-07-2022, 09:20 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: [ -> ]Frank and Green


Braun is a clone of those guys to some extent and they would all be fighting for the same role. I don't like Braun for the Mavs for that reason, especially with JB coming back.
(06-07-2022, 09:46 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Jalen Duren

Duren is fantastic, but I think he goes top 10 and Mavs would not have the ammo to get to him.

Tari Eason is the guy I think could fall into a range the Mavs could reach.
Yeah, no way we get in range of Duren. Some team is going to fall in love with that rare combination of size, athleticism and skill. And he’s like 19.
(06-07-2022, 10:50 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Braun is a clone of those guys to some extent and they would all be fighting for the same role. I don't like Braun for the Mavs for that reason, especially with JB coming back.


Braun is certainly not a clone of Frankie or Green in my opinion. Braun is a very good perimeter shooter with two years of college and an NCAA championship. He also has more playmaking and leadership ability than Green. And do we actually believe Frankie and Green will be here next season?
(06-08-2022, 06:56 AM)Winter Wrote: [ -> ]Braun is certainly not a clone of Frankie or Green in my opinion. Braun is a very good perimeter shooter with two years of college and an NCAA championship. He also has more playmaking and leadership ability than Green. And do we actually believe Frankie and Green will be here next season?


Sorry, "clone" was a bad word to use. 

Braun would be fighting for the same role on the team as FN and JG is what I really mean.

There might be plans for the Mavs to move on from JG or FN. I am not expecting it though. If there are plans then I am open to Braun. BUT I still like a lot of players in the draft at #26 ahead of Braun.
(06-08-2022, 07:16 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]BUT I still like a lot of players in the draft at #26 ahead of Braun.


I get that. He's just my new flavor of the month.
Initial mocks had Kessler going earlier. Now folks have talked themselves out of him. IMO we are overthinking and should grab him if available. 

I understand the concerns of switching on the perimeter. Even Rudy can’t keep up in the playoffs. I understand all that. However we can’t get too caught up with GS to ignore that players like Jokic, Embiid, KAT are doing very well. Stephen Adam and Valuncianis are a handful too. Heck even Zubac is a handful. The Mavs got killed by Looney. 

Luka’s body is not suited for a run and gun game. I don’t see him also ever being open to a motion offense where he has to move a lot without the ball. The Mavs need to play half court type offense with some wings who can shoot.  Maybe a traditional big does hamper us as we go deep.  However a traditional big defender will help a lot in the regular season. It will also help in defensive matchups where bigs are still dominating today.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izKJBkwaE0g
Kessler is actually my top choice when staying put at 26.

He's above Jaylin, Liddell, Koloko and Kamagate on my list
And even if Jovic is available, I'd still take Kessler.

Although the Mavs are implementing a plan on guys being switchable, I think the team needs one big dude who can give real board help and rim protection. If anything, he would be useful in the regular season on a small salary (as opposed to Gobert who will be a liability too at the max).
I am not convinced Kessler is a great fit. He's everything we need for rim protection, but I don't see him being able to guard the perimeter. This is not a guy who gets even 20 minutes per game in my opinion. Not in today's NBA. Guys like Tari Eason are probably the future of the center position now. Kessler may be too limited.

Given the talent and quality of good wings in this draft, I would trade for a center and draft a wing.
Jovic amuses me. I think the extreme similarity to Joker's name has him getting extra attention out the wazoo, and suspect that if his name was John Smith or William Edwards or something, he'd probably fall quickly. But no one wants to miss out on the Next Joker, so ...
(06-08-2022, 08:26 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: [ -> ]Kessler


Give me Koloko every time. 

1) Kessler has SMALL hands (8.5"), the 2nd smallest hands in the whole combine (!). 

2) Kessler has a lot of body fat (14.7%), the 2nd most in the whole combine. I think this bodes poorly for his future outlook on avoiding lower body injuries (knees, ankles, and feet). 

3) Kessler refused to do athletic testing...and I will let you figure out why. 

4) Kessler shot 59.6% on free throws which means the likelihood of him adding a three ball is very low (Koloko shot 73.5%). 

I am fine with the Mavs taking a "traditional" big, but give my Koloko over Kessler PLEASE.
(06-08-2022, 08:26 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: [ -> ]Initial mocks had Kessler going earlier. Now folks have talked themselves out of him. IMO we are overthinking and should grab him if available. 

I understand the concerns of switching on the perimeter. Even Rudy can’t keep up in the playoffs. I understand all that. However we can’t get too caught up with GS to ignore that players like Jokic, Embiid, KAT are doing very well. Stephen Adam and Valuncianis are a handful too. Heck even Zubac is a handful. The Mavs got killed by Looney. 

Luka’s body is not suited for a run and gun game. I don’t see him also ever being open to a motion offense where he has to move a lot without the ball. The Mavs need to play half court type offense with some wings who can shoot.  Maybe a traditional big does hamper us as we go deep.  However a traditional big defender will help a lot in the regular season. It will also help in defensive matchups where bigs are still dominating today.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izKJBkwaE0g
My concerns on Kessler are shooting.  His form looks really weird  and I am not sure if he will ever be a threat with his shot.  I saw some Video of Koloko and his shot mechanics looked good for me and would Like to see more of him shooting.  I don’t think Kessler has it in him, I dont think.

Second I thought he rebounded better.  He had some games during the season where he had monster rebound games but only averaged 8 per game.  I would like to get a better understanding there.

His last game of the season was really bad.  He had difficulty guarding all the quick Miami players.  You can mark it up to a bad game and that happens.  It is just a poor last view of him after a great year.

His shot blocking form is awesome though.  He may have difficulty guarding guards kn switches but he is definitely someone the mavs have better be watching last year and studying over the last few months.
Mavs draft put out a community mock today.  Had Dallas drafting Agbagi who slides a little.  laravia and Beauchamp went after Dallas pick.

Some of the guys in the second fell way too far but the second round tends to get a little wacky.  But don’t think Kessler and Braun fall nearly that fall.

http://mavsdraft.com/community-mock-draft-7-0/