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(06-24-2021, 04:32 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]If you sign Kidd then Dame will come...

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This is a seriously underrated point.  Dame wanted Kidd.  Giannis really didn't want Kidd fired.  Stars want to play for him.

I'm really warming up to this idea.
(06-24-2021, 04:48 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I am fine with getting this over sooner than later.  Bob head collector wins.  If Luka likes Kidd then I am fine with this.  If Luka doesn't like Bob, then Cuban is stupid.


I still think Cuban can promise Luka that Voulgaris will be nowhere to be found, if that is what Luka wants. 

I think there is a very STRONG possibility that Luka's hate for Voulgaris pales in comparison to his hate for RC.
(06-24-2021, 04:48 PM)Hypermav Wrote: [ -> ]I am fine with getting this over sooner than later.  Bob head collector wins.  If Luka likes Kidd then I am fine with this.  If Luka doesn't like Bob, then Cuban is stupid.

Cuban being stupid isn't mutually exclusive.  lol
(06-24-2021, 04:46 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I think Kidd is one of the smartest basketball guys you will ever meet. He offers way more than just a nice atmosphere.

As I said, let´s hope so. Why wasn´t he able to work with the Brooklyn/bucks teams? Many people had him as THE WORST NBA coach during his Bucks tenure. He´s proven complete inability to translate his basketball brain to coaching.

oh and btw. His personality is not easy to deal with at all, I´d guess, as he can be quite stubborn. Mavs are wasting precious time here and I´m predicting now, that Kidd won´t be here one year from now.
(06-24-2021, 04:47 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]Cow wins the Internet once again...

Nah.  Your post was a Luka pass so nice that even a bum like WCS (me) couldn't miss.
(06-24-2021, 04:49 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]This is a seriously underrated point.  Dame wanted Kidd.  Giannis really didn't want Kidd fired.  Stars want to play for him.

I'm really warming up to this idea.

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Can't think of a better coach for the world's best point guard than an all-time great HOF point guard. 

Love the move and hope it happens.
(06-24-2021, 04:34 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently Skin was just on radio and him + this other guy sais this according to reddit posters:

-Ben said Rick is the least likeable person on the planet. He would essentially bully him so he started to ignore him. Skin agreed and said Carlisle would basically roam the “strip” looking for someone to be a dick to.

-they said it was incredibly unprofessional for Rick on his way out to make a comment on who we should hire next, but now say they would bet everything Kidd is the next head coach.

-No secret a lot of players didn’t like Carlisle, including Kidd and that they noticed no former teammate from 2015 really trashed rondo, even though they themselves did. Basically alluding to Carlisle being a main problem.

-Carlisle was why we never really landed a big free agent. Smart coach, good coach, most people disliked him.

-they would guess Finley gets promoted to head ops, Kidd coach, and hire someone from Nike or an agent that is good at recruiting to be GM.



dog gone....maybe I'm (and have been) wrong

don't think I ever realized, or maybe didn't want to think of, how big of a jerk Rick was/is
I wish Rondo was a free agent this offseason.  I'd love to sign him just to troll Rick.
So the new GM is an agent who also has worked for Nike...

Where's Dan to tell us who this is
(06-24-2021, 04:51 PM)Thukydides Wrote: [ -> ]Why wasn´t he able to work with the Brooklyn/bucks teams? Many people had him as THE WORST NBA coach during his Bucks tenure. He´s proven complete inability to translate his basketball brain to coaching


I think Kidd was a naivete to coaching and didn't really know how to get the most out of his rosters. Those BKN and Buck teams were young too. Unproven talent+Unproven coaching leads to underwhelming results.

I do find it interesting that Bud comes in the next year and takes that MIL team to new heights. Kidd's coaching, while underwhelming, still had to have some sort of an effect in the development of their players to be able to do that under a new seasoned coach. 

I also think that Kidd has learned valuable experience in LA. He won a championship there being a lead assistant and saw first hand what it takes to lead a team to the promise land. 

I'm really coming around to it.
(06-24-2021, 05:03 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: [ -> ]So the new GM is an agent who also has worked for Nike...

Where's Dan to tell us who this is

Rich Paul!  lol
(06-24-2021, 04:49 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]This is a seriously underrated point.  Dame wanted Kidd.  Giannis really didn't want Kidd fired.  Stars want to play for him.

I'm really warming up to this idea.
His contract runs for like four more years. By the time he gets to ask out Luka probably has already done the same.

Also: we still won’t have the assets. That issue won’t go away anytime soon.

No, I really don’t see a positive angle to Kidd being the new headcoach. He failed everywhere in that role.
(06-24-2021, 05:05 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Rich Paul!  lol

Man I hope that doesn't mean we are getting 4th Quarter Simmons...
(06-24-2021, 04:34 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]-Carlisle was why we never really landed a big free agent. Smart coach, good coach, most people disliked him.

While I don't think Carlisle is the whole problem behind our lack of free agent success (look at how we treated Tyson, twice), people have scoffed at me for bringing this up in the past as if Kendrick Perkins were the only person throwing shade Carlisle's way.
One thing I do like about Kidd is that he doesn’t give a rat’s rear about Cuban.  I still remember him chuckling when some reporters conveyed Mark’s threat of never having Kidd’s jersey in the rafters after he went back on his word and signed with the Knicks.
(06-24-2021, 05:11 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]No, I really don’t see a positive angle to Kidd being the new headcoach. He failed everywhere in that role.


I don't think 0.500 ball as a coach is "failing" especially when you consider circumstances AND the fact that Kidd was really thrown into the fire with no assistant coaching experience.
(06-24-2021, 05:11 PM)JamesConway Wrote: [ -> ]His contract runs for like four more years. By the time he gets to ask out Luka probably has already done the same.

Also: we still won’t have the assets. That issue won’t go away anytime soon.

No, I really don’t see a positive angle to Kidd being the new headcoach. He failed everywhere in that role.

You misunderstand or I wasn't being clear.  I don't think Kidd = Mavs getting Dame.  I think Kidd = stars more willing to come play for us.
Feeling bad for Jamahl. I wonder why Cuban doesn't like him as a head coach.