Day t-minus 18 and counting.
RoCo and Maxi would be great additions in a SnT to get Giannis here. Pick up and sign valuable contracts and let the rest take care of itself. If you make a mistake and sign or pick up a bad contract, use other assets (draft picks and your value contracts) to offload those contracts if and when the time comes that it's needed. There's too much overthinking when it comes to "how much space do we need to get Giannis and will this trade or signing ruin that"?
(01-20-2020, 12:44 PM)Jym Wrote: [ -> ] (01-20-2020, 12:36 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]As far as "let valuable rotation players walk for nothing" goes - that won't happen by 2021 bc Mavs locked up guys through then. The only guy that could walk is THJ and if he walks you would understand it as the Mavs don't want to be the 3rd team to make the mistake of overpaying him. I think even if he finishes strong he will opt in bc 2021 will be the year that FA's cash in. He will be 29 then so it's possible he could get a decent deal coming off two strong years with the Mavs. You never know what will happen.
True it's more the "while simultaneously missing out on upgrade trades" side of things that would bite us.
And Cuban's main concern about the mid-season tournament was so weird to me. He mentioned an extra first round pick being a hindrance to capspace management. Ummm what??
Cubes says a lot of random stuff. He just likes to stay in the news.
(01-20-2020, 03:01 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ] (01-20-2020, 12:44 PM)Jym Wrote: [ -> ] (01-20-2020, 12:36 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]As far as "let valuable rotation players walk for nothing" goes - that won't happen by 2021 bc Mavs locked up guys through then. The only guy that could walk is THJ and if he walks you would understand it as the Mavs don't want to be the 3rd team to make the mistake of overpaying him. I think even if he finishes strong he will opt in bc 2021 will be the year that FA's cash in. He will be 29 then so it's possible he could get a decent deal coming off two strong years with the Mavs. You never know what will happen.
True it's more the "while simultaneously missing out on upgrade trades" side of things that would bite us.
And Cuban's main concern about the mid-season tournament was so weird to me. He mentioned an extra first round pick being a hindrance to capspace management. Ummm what??
Cubes says a lot of random stuff. He just likes to stay in the news.
I think most will assume he's a lot more of a credible source in terms of cap management.
On its face it's a dumb argument. You can give away first round picks if you are that worried ab the cap hit. And teams try very hard to gather picks as trade currency. Cubes would love to have some first round picks right now.
At any rate I don't take anything he says seriously. He likes to talk and yes he's in the room when negotiations are happening but I don't think he's making basketball decisions for the most part. Jerry Jones is in a similar position. Cubes is more like a spokesman.
A little off topic, but can I ask whatever happened to DLord? His salary and cap science insight was great on the old 24/7 site, to me at least. Does his association with Fish keeping him away from non-SI postings?
Just wondering...
(01-21-2020, 11:23 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]A little off topic, but can I ask whatever happened to DLord? His salary and cap science insight was great on the old 24/7 site, to me at least. Does his association with Fish keeping him away from non-SI postings?
Just wondering...
Actually haven't seen him post on SI except for one post as far as I know...Fish did say in a post DL was working with him on the new site but only thing I saw was DL posting how bad that site was...nothing since then...
This isn't a rumor, it is a suggestion from Smoking Cuban. Not terrible though. Cost of Brunson + Jackson next season is essentially the same as Rose. So, it doesn't change spending plans this summer. Then Rose expires for 2021 and creates even more space than if we had both Brunson and Jackson.
BJ Armstrong is agent for Rose. I doubt Dallas puts two players (not to mention two picks) in a deal without getting a prospect back (Khyri Thomas is an Excel guy). Jackson plays some PF, so not having an avenue to another player with some size (either from Detroit or some other deal involving Lee or our TPE) would leave Dallas a bit thin in the Big rotation. So, if something like this happened, the need for another bigger player becomes even greater.
https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/01/21/d...eadline/7/
(01-21-2020, 01:32 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]This isn't a rumor, it is a suggestion from Smoking Cuban. Not terrible though. Cost of Brunson + Jackson next season is essentially the same as Rose. So, it doesn't change spending plans this summer. Then Rose expires for 2021 and creates even more space than if we had both Brunson and Jackson.
BJ Armstrong is agent for Rose. I doubt Dallas puts two players (not to mention two picks) in a deal without getting a prospect back (Khyri Thomas is an Excel guy). Jackson plays some PF, so not having an avenue to another player with some size (either from Detroit or some other deal involving Lee or our TPE) would leave Dallas a bit thin in the Big rotation. So, if something like this happened, the need for another bigger player becomes even greater.
https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/01/21/d...eadline/7/
That's a ton to give up for another guard that won't be around longterm
Plus I don't see him fixing any of our problems so really it makes little sense to me.
(01-21-2020, 11:23 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]A little off topic, but can I ask whatever happened to DLord? His salary and cap science insight was great on the old 24/7 site, to me at least. Does his association with Fish keeping him away from non-SI postings?
Just wondering...
Captain went down with the ship and is now swimming with the fish?
(01-21-2020, 02:19 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2020, 11:23 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]A little off topic, but can I ask whatever happened to DLord? His salary and cap science insight was great on the old 24/7 site, to me at least. Does his association with Fish keeping him away from non-SI postings?
Just wondering...
Captain went down with the ship and is now swimming with the fish?
I wish Fish and company would fix this S*@#$. I don't like ads but I would tolerate ads I think to have a unified community + DLord and Fish weighing in on threads.
For every unique and real insight DLord had, there were 10 patronizing and belittling comments to people about them not having all the knowledge he had to begin with. Good riddance IMO
(01-21-2020, 11:23 AM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]A little off topic, but can I ask whatever happened to DLord? His salary and cap science insight was great on the old 24/7 site, to me at least. Does his association with Fish keeping him away from non-SI postings?
Just wondering...
He still tweets a lot! But other than that, I haven't seen him at all on Fish's new site. He did mention he didn't like the redesign and hoped for a more traditional forum but it's been radio silence since then.
The thing is, he did make an account here, but he hasn't logged on since September...
(01-21-2020, 01:32 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]This isn't a rumor, it is a suggestion from Smoking Cuban. Not terrible though. Cost of Brunson + Jackson next season is essentially the same as Rose. So, it doesn't change spending plans this summer. Then Rose expires for 2021 and creates even more space than if we had both Brunson and Jackson.
BJ Armstrong is agent for Rose. I doubt Dallas puts two players (not to mention two picks) in a deal without getting a prospect back (Khyri Thomas is an Excel guy). Jackson plays some PF, so not having an avenue to another player with some size (either from Detroit or some other deal involving Lee or our TPE) would leave Dallas a bit thin in the Big rotation. So, if something like this happened, the need for another bigger player becomes even greater.
https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/01/21/d...eadline/7/
Given how freaking low the market is on Drummond, would you do a Brunson+Jackson+Lee+2 2nd rounders (most likely GSW and any other) for Drummond+Rose?
I would say yes 100%. Unfortunately the money doesn't work, and a slight modification and a deal that I've been throwing around the last couple of weeks has been
Wright+Lee+Jackson+2 picks for Drummond and Rose. On the face of it, you're basically just swapping out Wright for Rose, and getting Drummond for the expiring of Lee and Justin Jackson. Mavs get Rose, who has been on a tear, and can play that lead guard off the bench and play clutch minutes. They also kill another bird with this trade, by reducing Powell's role and adding in a big center who's still mobile.
For all the warts Drummond has, that is about buying as low as you possible can for a guy who's averaged 16 and 16 the last 3 years. Plus if it doesn't work out, the Mavs really only lost out on Lee+Jackson, which isn't such an impactful loss.
Doubt the Pistons would trade their best 2 assets for that kind of package though, but you never know.
Buy low on Aaron Gordon, Donnie. You can thank me later.
(01-21-2020, 04:35 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2020, 03:58 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs get Rose, who has been on a tear, and can play that lead guard off the bench and play clutch minutes. They also kill another bird with this trade, by reducing Powell's role and adding in a big center who's still mobile.
I think you just answered Jym’s question about the trade. Who would you rather have running the second unit and helping in clutch time when you need a bucket, Rose or Brunson?
To your other question, I’d rather have Dieng than Drummond all things considered. Having two productive vets in Rose and Dieng who both expire in time for 2021 is a very good plan in my estimation.
When push comes to shove I see Brunson getting benched in the playoffs for the most part.
So I'm certainly open to an upgrade trade using him.
I just see more of a need for a sf/pf type. I'm perfectly fine with Luka, Seth, Wright, and THJ at the guard spots. Which of those guys does Rose push out of a playoff rotation?
(01-21-2020, 05:19 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]Buy low on Aaron Gordon, Donnie. You can thank me later.
I'm in
(01-21-2020, 05:19 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]Buy low on Aaron Gordon, Donnie. You can thank me later.
I think he could be a 5 here alongside KP. At least offensively. Defensively he'd have to guard in space but he's probably as suited physically and athletically as anybody in the league for that.
Highly Intrigueing target Imo. I'd be in as well but it would take Orlando to be willing to make a drastic decision on their SF/PF/C rotation. Their guys don't fit alongside each other but with Isaac being out that opens up minutes for the next 1-2 months or maybe longer depending on when he returns.
So they might delay that decision until draft night...
Day t-minus 17 and counting.
I love the idea of buying low on anyone (cf. my comments in the other trade thread), but I think we don't have a real chance at Gordon this TDL because of how weak the East is. The Magic are a disappointment, but still seeded for the playoffs right now, and likely will indeed make the playoffs. But not if they trade Gordon for peanuts.