(02-26-2020, 01:06 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2020, 12:15 AM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: [ -> ]Scott melting down over freakin WCS is my favorite internet storyline at the moment.
Will you "melt down" if he goes elsewhere and contributes significantly? If not, then that says a lot about you as a poster and Mavs fan.
Are you 12 years old? If not, that says a lot about you as a poster and a man.
(02-26-2020, 10:11 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: [ -> ]I think Mavs would love to have THJ here long term. But I wouldn't discount the possibility of the Mavs wanting to upgrade him actually. I don't think the Mavs have any plans to extend him this summer.
This is impressive
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Really wish Mavs could have landed Iguodala, he would have been in the 8ish man rotation in the playoffs as our defensive stopper. As it is Mavs probably go 8 deep in the playoffs including Brunson and Wright with only 2 bigs on nights when guys aren't in foul trouble. For now I like seeing more Lee over Jackson to see if he can at least give us a little more defense than we have otherwise. MKG so far looks like a total zero out there. It's still relatively early so I guess he could turn it around. For now he has very little impact when he's on the floor from what I can tell.
(03-06-2020, 02:15 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Really wish Mavs could have landed Iguodala, he would have been in the 8ish man rotation in the playoffs as our defensive stopper. As it is Mavs probably go 8 deep in the playoffs including Brunson and Wright with only 2 bigs on nights when guys aren't in foul trouble. For now I like seeing more Lee over Jackson to see if he can at least give us a little more defense than we have otherwise. MKG so far looks like a total zero out there. It's still relatively early so I guess he could turn it around. For now he has very little impact when he's on the floor from what I can tell.
I see your point and more size is probably welcome in the playoffs, especially with DP out.
I’m not really crying about Iggy though. IMO, he’s seen his best days already. MEM was needing bodies and they never tried to get him on the court, at least that’s the story they tell.
I think Iggy will do well in a spot role where he doesn’t have the burden of having to be a primary defensive stopper or providing scoring punch. Obviously a team like MIA, LAL or LAC are ideal for him. Not a bad deal to get traded to MIA, play for a year or so, then retire and enjoy the SoFL lifestyle.
I just think Mavs won't have enough defense come playoff time. If you shorten your rotation to 8 you have pretty good defenders. Brunson is actually better than I thought he would be. Luka is your worst but at least he's big and grabs rebounds. I just wish we had 1 guy in the mix that was really a difference maker. Anyways we will see. If playoffs started today Mavs would play the Clippers which is the worst matchup you could ask for. I hope Mavs will do whatever they can to avoid them.
(03-06-2020, 04:10 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]I just think Mavs won't have enough defense come playoff time. If you shorten your rotation to 8 you have pretty good defenders. Brunson is actually better than I thought he would be. Luka is your worst but at least he's big and grabs rebounds. I just wish we had 1 guy in the mix that was really a difference maker. Anyways we will see. If playoffs started today Mavs would play the Clippers which is the worst matchup you could ask for. I hope Mavs will do whatever they can to avoid them.
I agree.
In fairness, if healthy, I think the Clippers are the worst matchup for anybody right now. Their defense can be ferocious and they can pretty much score on anybody. Keeping PG and Kawai off the trainer's table will be the main factor in how far they can go. I feel like they're just trying to get through the season healthy to turn it on in the playoffs.
I think the Mavs have another gear as well. Maybe even one they don't know they have yet. Get some success in a few high pressure, tight scoring games and their confidence can peak, enabling a deep run. I think that's part of the magic of the 2011 championship. Tight games and come backs led to believing in each other and ended in a trophy. Maybe we got a peek at that during OT vs the Pelicans.
Shams' Inside Pass had the Mavs making a late push for Gallinari at the TDL. I wonder what made the deal fall apart,tThe extension or the offer. Wright + Lee does the salary matching. What else would have been involved? GSW 2nd ? Jackson?
Luka/THJ/DFS/Gallo/KP are a scary team. Add Curry, Kleber, Brunson and WCS to that and I think we would have a legitimate shot to beat any team in the league.
(03-06-2020, 06:06 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Shams' Inside Pass had the Mavs making a late push for Gallinari at the TDL. I wonder what made the deal fall apart,tThe extension or the offer. Wright + Lee does the salary matching. What else would have been involved? GSW 2nd ? Jackson?
Luka/THJ/DFS/Gallo/KP are a scary team. Add Curry, Kleber, Brunson and WCS to that and I think we would have a legitimate shot to beat any team in the league.
Yeah, Gallo would be GREAT on this team.
Gallo doesn't make any sense. Mavs need defense, not more offense.
(03-06-2020, 02:15 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Really wish Mavs could have landed Iguodala, he would have been in the 8ish man rotation in the playoffs as our defensive stopper. As it is Mavs probably go 8 deep in the playoffs including Brunson and Wright with only 2 bigs on nights when guys aren't in foul trouble. For now I like seeing more Lee over Jackson to see if he can at least give us a little more defense than we have otherwise. MKG so far looks like a total zero out there. It's still relatively early so I guess he could turn it around. For now he has very little impact when he's on the floor from what I can tell.
Well not everybody can have the instant impact of Igoudala. Every game that Igoudala played 20+ minutes, they have lost.
0-5.
(03-07-2020, 09:10 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Gallo doesn't make any sense. Mavs need defense, not more offense.
That #1 ranked offense (battering sub 0.500 teams with professionalism) turns into the 27th ranked offense in crunch time of close games.
We have some five man units with excellent defensive stats, where only one main player is changed.
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Powell / Porzingis 89.7
Doncic / THJ / DFS / Kleber /
Powell 93.5
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Porzingis 94.0
Curry / THJ / Doncic / Kleber / Porzingis 96.4
All other 5 man units have a rating of 100+ (minimum 50 minutes).
I also intentionally listed Curry at PG in the last line-up, cause I think that might be the common denominator. Luka is a thick 6´8 and he can´t defend smaller guards. Replace or move him around and we can be lethal defensively.
Kinda sucks that basketball is a 5 man game, cause if it was a 6 man game, we´d just add Brunson and have perfect balance on both ends of the floor.
(03-07-2020, 12:44 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2020, 09:10 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Gallo doesn't make any sense. Mavs need defense, not more offense.
That #1 ranked offense (battering sub 0.500 teams with professionalism) turns into the 27th ranked offense in crunch time of close games.
We have some five man units with excellent defensive stats, where only one main player is changed.
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Powell / Porzingis 89.7
Doncic / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Powell 93.5
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Porzingis 94.0
Curry / THJ / Doncic / Kleber / Porzingis 96.4
All other 5 man units have a rating of 100+ (minimum 50 minutes).
I also intentionally listed Curry at PG in the last line-up, cause I think that might be the common denominator. Luka is a thick 6´8 and he can´t defend smaller guards. Replace or move him around and we can be lethal defensively.
Kinda sucks that basketball is a 5 man game, cause if it was a 6 man game, we´d just add Brunson and have perfect balance on both ends of the floor.
Hmmm, it seems you're trying to make a case for this team to be good defensively. Is that what you're trying to do?
(03-06-2020, 06:06 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Shams' Inside Pass had the Mavs making a late push for Gallinari at the TDL. I wonder what made the deal fall apart,tThe extension or the offer.
Cuban said after the deadline that they were close to a big trade but couldn't come to terms with the player on an extension. I can virtually guarantee that player was Gallo. A Gallo trade fell apart with Miami for the same reason.
(03-07-2020, 12:49 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2020, 12:44 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2020, 09:10 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: [ -> ]Gallo doesn't make any sense. Mavs need defense, not more offense.
That #1 ranked offense (battering sub 0.500 teams with professionalism) turns into the 27th ranked offense in crunch time of close games.
We have some five man units with excellent defensive stats, where only one main player is changed.
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Powell / Porzingis 89.7
Doncic / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Powell 93.5
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Porzingis 94.0
Curry / THJ / Doncic / Kleber / Porzingis 96.4
All other 5 man units have a rating of 100+ (minimum 50 minutes).
I also intentionally listed Curry at PG in the last line-up, cause I think that might be the common denominator. Luka is a thick 6´8 and he can´t defend smaller guards. Replace or move him around and we can be lethal defensively.
Kinda sucks that basketball is a 5 man game, cause if it was a 6 man game, we´d just add Brunson and have perfect balance on both ends of the floor.
Hmmm, it seems you're trying to make a case for this team to be good defensively. Is that what you're trying to do?
If it came down to one possession, I´d have more faith in
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Porzingis
to get a stop than
Doncic / Curry / THJ / Kleber / Porzingis
to get a score.
We need an upgrade on both sides of the floor. We just need to Siakam the draft.
(03-07-2020, 01:04 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ] (03-06-2020, 06:06 PM)aguiar95 Wrote: [ -> ]Shams' Inside Pass had the Mavs making a late push for Gallinari at the TDL. I wonder what made the deal fall apart,tThe extension or the offer.
Cuban said after the deadline that they were close to a big trade but couldn't come to terms with the player on an extension. I can virtually guarantee that player was Gallo. A Gallo trade fell apart with Miami for the same reason.
Agree. Which leads to some conclusions (previously discussed when we knew this had happened even before Shams confirmed it).
Gallo wants more than a years extension and both Dallas and Miami were not willing to give it. Dallas likes him, but not enough to forego flexibility past 2020.
Gallo matching takes Lee and about $4.75mm in outgoing salary. We don't have an easily expendable contract of that amount. A 3 for 3 would have been challenging. So, likelihood is it was Lee + Wright + pick compensation for Gallo and a smaller contract into our TPE (Muscala?). That basically says we liked Gallo more than Wright (which makes sense in the absence of Powell). It might also say deals involving Wright for a rental may be considered both in terms of the player received and in terms of reducing salary for 2021.
BTW, people tend to make 2021 all about chasing superstars. With near max space (maybe more depending on how this summer goes), we may be chasing a couple more "third best player" types rather than a third superstar.
(03-07-2020, 01:25 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]If it came down to one possession, I´d have more faith in
Brunson / THJ / DFS / Kleber / Porzingis
to get a stop than
Doncic / Curry / THJ / Kleber / Porzingis
to get a score.
We need an upgrade on both sides of the floor. We just need to Siakam the draft.
I don't think we need an upgrade on offense at all, and especially not getting an offense only guy in Gallo. We have so many decent to good offensive players and decent to bad defenders on the team. Luka is Offense heavy in contribution, so that needs to be offset with more decent to good defenders. Getting Gallo just further exacerbates the issue.
Fully agree with Siakam-ing the draft!
We need perimeter defenders but I think getting Gallo still makes you a much better team. Just depends on what assets you would've had to trade for him and if you're better off saving those assets for a defensive player later on.
(03-07-2020, 01:33 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, people tend to make 2021 all about chasing superstars. With near max space (maybe more depending on how this summer goes), we may be chasing a couple more "third best player" types rather than a third superstar.
I really hope that's what they're doing. Not going after players now just so we can have capspace for any player(s) in 2021 is still a bad plan IMO. I mean, we had lots of capspace this last offseason and we saw how that went. Just do it the GSW way, get the players to say yes, then either have contingency plans in place to make it happen, or make the money work after the fact.
Heck, do it like Mia did with the 3. Sell them on the team, then find out after the fact that you can't get all the money. All 3 took a small hit on their salary that way.
Gallo in the starting lineup makes the Mavs an even worse defensive team than they already are. I think offensively we are just fine, especially with KP & Luka getting into their groove (altho Luka keeps getting banged up).
Luka/THJ/DFS/Gallo/KP is nice from a size standpoint but defensively it's not going to cut it. Mavs need an athletic, defensive wing that can hit from outside to play along DFS at either the 3 or 4 spot. Part of the reason the Mavs offense struggles late is that their defense doesn't get stops which means it's harder to get good offensive looks. I also expect our closing offense to only get better as the team gels. Mavs already have the top offensive rating in the league, let's get better on defense y'all!