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https://twitter.com/cruzfe13/status/1328584188866539522

1) This guy seems to be pretty trustworthy and was nailing the CP3 when others were not.

2) With all the overspending last night for immediate runs at the championship the Mavs need to take a deep breath on 2021 and work toward 2022 and beyond.

3) I think the best approach is to develop depth and youth through the draft. A star if possible.

4) The Suns have been linked to Hayes at #10. Is it possible that they have been linked there on behalf of DAL? Almost no way Hayes falls to 11-18, right?

5) Rubio was the Suns BEST three point shooter last year other than Cam Johnson. The Suns need shooting to spread the floor. I think they are aiming at a shooter. Can they get this shooter at 18?


My take: I REALLY hope the Mavs are tracking Hayes on draft night and do what they can to grab him. The Mavs need to try and get a 3rd star (if one falls there to #10) in the draft rather than spending all their assets like these other contenders have on old guys.

What are we thinking would be the price to move up to #10? #18 and #31 obviously, but in terms of players... would Brunson+JJax cut it? Brunson+DFS?

(11-17-2020, 08:35 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]What are we thinking would be the price to move up to #10?

The price according to one report a few days ago was....

#10 for #18+DFS 

....if I am reading that guy right.

(11-17-2020, 08:22 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/cruzfe13/status/1328584188866539522

1) This guy seems to be pretty trustworthy and was nailing the CP3 when others were not.

2) With all the overspending last night for immediate runs at the championship the Mavs need to take a deep breath on 2021 and work toward 2022 and beyond.

3) I think the best approach is to develop depth and youth through the draft. A star if possible.

4) The Suns have been linked to Hayes at #10. Is it possible that they have been linked there on behalf of DAL? Almost no way Hayes falls to 11-18, right?

5) Rubio was the Suns BEST three point shooter last year other than Cam Johnson. The Suns need shooting to spread the floor. I think they are aiming at a shooter. Can they get this shooter at 18?


My take: I REALLY hope the Mavs are tracking Hayes on draft night and do what they can to grab him. The Mavs need to try and get a 3rd star (if one falls there to #10) in the draft rather than spending all their assets like these other contenders have on old guys.

The Saric deal was a drop from 6 to 11 and they got Saric.  So, if this is “similar” to the Saric deal, it would be 10 down to 18 plus who?  It would need to be someone who is an asset...not a dump.

Edit:  Phoenix has a $5mm Team Option on Kaminsky which would match DFS.

(11-17-2020, 08:36 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-17-2020, 08:35 AM)Branduil Wrote: [ -> ]What are we thinking would be the price to move up to #10?

The price according to one report a few days ago was....

#10 for #18+DFS 

....if I am reading that guy right.

Seems pretty cheap if so. Would leave us with plenty of assets left to get a wing to replace DFS.

(11-17-2020, 08:39 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-17-2020, 08:22 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/cruzfe13/status/1328584188866539522

1) This guy seems to be pretty trustworthy and was nailing the CP3 when others were not.

2) With all the overspending last night for immediate runs at the championship the Mavs need to take a deep breath on 2021 and work toward 2022 and beyond.

3) I think the best approach is to develop depth and youth through the draft. A star if possible.

4) The Suns have been linked to Hayes at #10. Is it possible that they have been linked there on behalf of DAL? Almost no way Hayes falls to 11-18, right?

5) Rubio was the Suns BEST three point shooter last year other than Cam Johnson. The Suns need shooting to spread the floor. I think they are aiming at a shooter. Can they get this shooter at 18?


My take: I REALLY hope the Mavs are tracking Hayes on draft night and do what they can to grab him. The Mavs need to try and get a 3rd star (if one falls there to #10) in the draft rather than spending all their assets like these other contenders have on old guys.

The Saric deal was a drop from 6 to 11 and they got Saric.  So, if this is “similar” to the Saric deal, it would be 10 down to 18 plus who?  It would need to be someone who is an asset...not a dump.

Edit:  Phoenix has a $5mm Team Option on Kaminsky which would match DFS.

I know DFS has been mentioned here, but he would not be an add, he is worth #10 himself. And I really doubt the Mavs think about trading him outside if a absolut homerun.
I would look at #18+Brunson, if Hayes is the goal.

€dit: isn't it funny how much we differ about the value of a pick/player.
As this is the same with GMs, I will luckyly look out for our net trade.

I think Brunson + 18 for #10 makes a lot of sense for the Mavs and Phoenix if the Mavs want a playmaking guard at that pick. I like Hayes as a Next Level JJB as a PnR handler.

(11-17-2020, 08:59 AM)Mapka Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-17-2020, 08:39 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-17-2020, 08:22 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/cruzfe13/status/1328584188866539522

1) This guy seems to be pretty trustworthy and was nailing the CP3 when others were not.

2) With all the overspending last night for immediate runs at the championship the Mavs need to take a deep breath on 2021 and work toward 2022 and beyond.

3) I think the best approach is to develop depth and youth through the draft. A star if possible.

4) The Suns have been linked to Hayes at #10. Is it possible that they have been linked there on behalf of DAL? Almost no way Hayes falls to 11-18, right?

5) Rubio was the Suns BEST three point shooter last year other than Cam Johnson. The Suns need shooting to spread the floor. I think they are aiming at a shooter. Can they get this shooter at 18?


My take: I REALLY hope the Mavs are tracking Hayes on draft night and do what they can to grab him. The Mavs need to try and get a 3rd star (if one falls there to #10) in the draft rather than spending all their assets like these other contenders have on old guys.

The Saric deal was a drop from 6 to 11 and they got Saric.  So, if this is “similar” to the Saric deal, it would be 10 down to 18 plus who?  It would need to be someone who is an asset...not a dump.

Edit:  Phoenix has a $5mm Team Option on Kaminsky which would match DFS.

I know DFS has been mentioned here, but he would not be an add, he is worth #10 himself. And I really doubt the Mavs think about trading him outside if a absolut homerun.
I would look at #18+Brunson, if Hayes is the goal.

€dit: isn't it funny how much we differ about the value of a pick/player.
As this is the same with GMs, I will luckyly look out for our net trade.

I posted a synopsis of a conversation about what the price of Paul should be between Hollinger and Nate Duncan.  Hollinger said #10 was a must.  Duncan suggested that was crazy and it would be Ty Jerome instead.  Turns out it was Ty Jerome and a future 1st.  Basically a compromise between the two positions.  I think the board had this pretty close to correct.

I thought of Brunson, but Phoenix has a number of good young-ish backup PG's.  I think DFS is the bigger need.  Maybe a multi-year MLE to DJJ replaces DFS and you draft a guard who can eventually start and be what we hoped to trade for in Kemba/Rubio/Beverley/Dipo.  More young core.  Wright for Green would also be a possibility for replacing DFS if we are still trying to conserve cap space for some reason.

I am not willing to give up DFS for the 10th pick. It´s very likely that most guys picked from 10-20 will peak at current DFS level. I just don´t see a big difference between any of the mentioned mid/late 1st prospects.

Wasn't there a rumor about Miles Bridges being available or did I dream that?

(11-17-2020, 09:41 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]I am not willing to give up DFS for the 10th pick.

I 100% agree with you......with ONE exception: 

Killian Hayes. 

If Hayes falls to #10 I think his peak is FAR beyond DFS if he is developed in the right context (like DAL behind the safety of Luka). 

If Hayes is off the board at #10, then no way I trade DFS to get there.

Dan is DFS really worth the #10 pick? That sounds high to me. I could see him being worth something in the 20 or later range. I don't see DFS as a lottery pick to someone. He's a solid player and a good glue guy. I know he's a strong defender. If the Mavs can trade him for the #10 and still keep 18/31, I would do that deal. We could get a strong player at 10 and then have options with 18/31. Possibly even package the 18/31 for a for a player that can help immediately.

(11-17-2020, 09:44 AM)BigDirk41 Wrote: [ -> ]Dan is DFS really worth the #10 pick? That sounds high to me. I could see him being worth something in the 20 or later range. I don't see DFS as a lottery pick to someone. He's a solid player and a good glue guy. I know he's a strong defender. If the Mavs can trade him for the #10 and still keep 18/31, I would do that deal. We could get a strong player at 10 and then have options with 18/31. Possibly even package the 18/31 for a for a player that can help immediately.

Maybe I wasn’t clear.  For this to be “similar” to the Saric deal, it would be DFS plus 18 to move up to 10.  If Hayes is there and if you can replace DFS with DJJ you have set yourself up nicely with two more long term pieces.  Phoenix executing the deal early kind of limited some of what they can do.  DFS is a really nice get for them.  Fills a need in the forward rotation nicely and inexpensively.

Frank the Tank could certainly be cut, but if WCS opts out, he’d be a cheap replacement level guy here while we wait for KP and Powell to get to full strength.

(11-17-2020, 09:33 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: [ -> ]I posted a synopsis of a conversation about what the price of Paul should be between Hollinger and Nate Duncan.  Hollinger said #10 was a must.  Duncan suggested that was crazy and it would be Ty Jerome instead.  Turns out it was Ty Jerome and a future 1st.  Basically a compromise between the two positions.  I think the board had this pretty close to correct.

I thought of Brunson, but Phoenix has a number of good young-ish backup PG's.  I think DFS is the bigger need.  Maybe a multi-year MLE to DJJ replaces DFS and you draft a guard who can eventually start and be what we hoped to trade for in Kemba/Rubio/Beverley/Dipo.  More young core.  Wright for Green would also be a possibility for replacing DFS if we are still trying to conserve cap space for some reason.

They also have a number of "goodish, youngish" SFs.

I think every Team would take DFS over #18+Brunson just because he has more value, fits everywhere, is laughable cheap. He was around #15 in every redraft in a "better" year. He is what everybody envisions when they want Vassell in the Top10.

This is true for the Mavs too.
We love him. We were never ever in talk about RoCo because of him.
We won´t use him as a throw-in.

If we think #10 is our Kawhi - I can see it. But we won´t add #18 then.

Other than Luka and KP, an argument can be made that DFS was our 3rd best player in the playoffs. He practically shutdown Paul George in the Clippers series and had some really good games.

Yeah, as long as DFS is on this contract number ... aren't you hoping that someone like Okoro, Vassell or Patrick Williams eventually turns into what DFS is currently? None of these guys seem like electric NBA offensive weapons to me. You're hoping they can guard 3 or 4 different positions off the switch and hit an open 3.

There was some guy on this board who spent last offseason claiming that DFS was about to claim a starting spot by showing up with a 3 pt shot (that he'd been working on for years, and had finally figured out) in his back pocket

The Minnesota Timberwolves have yet to reach a decision about what they'll do with the No. 1 pick in Wednesday's 2020 NBA draft.
According to The Athletic's Sam Vecenie, Minnesota has narrowed its focus, with LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards "in the mix" if they keep the selection:
"Over the last 24 hours, the tide has shifted a bit to where I think Edwards is a bit more likely than Ball. Essentially, the conversations boil down to this: do they take the guy who fits better on this roster in Edwards, who can clearly slide into the 2-guard spot? Or do they take Ball, who probably has a bit more upside?"