(06-22-2023, 09:08 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, sure. But that's nitpicky in the framework of this topic, imho.
He IS a usable NBA player who WILL be sought after going into his second contract. Highly sought after. That isn't a "blown off" pick. That's a successful pick.
Eh, I think that's overselling it. I'm not saying he's a Terry/Bey bust, but he isn't a great pick either.
(06-22-2023, 09:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]But I do not like this Lively pick. I hope I eat crow but I just don't see it. But I was all in with Cam. He has that talent.
What's your beef? Not right for the timeline?
Get back in and get me Cam at #20!!!!
(06-22-2023, 09:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I'm only sliiiiightly trying to pull your leg. I largely agree with you. Their drafting since 2018 has been pretty stellar. Heck even DSJ wasn't that bad of a pick given the context it was made in.
But I do not like this Lively pick. I hope I eat crow but I just don't see it. But I was all in with Cam. He has that talent.
Maybe you get your wish. IF the Mavs really like somebody there has to be a trade.
Joe Harris + #21 or #22, then try to move THJ + 2027 unprotected for Jarrett Allen. Haha that would be insane.
Come away with
Doncic/Hardy
Irving/Harris
Bullock/Green
Kleber/L. Miller
Allen/Lively
Sign me up.
(06-22-2023, 09:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]What's your beef? Not right for the timeline?
He said out of the league in five years so no timeline.
(06-22-2023, 09:10 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Eh, I think that's overselling it. I'm not saying he's a Terry/Bey bust, but he isn't a great pick either.
Oh, now I see the problem. You're wrong about Green, that's all. jk
Just saying, we're not going to agree tonight if that's the hold up. I think he's on his way to being a nice player. Very soon.
And GS passes too? Whitmore is definitely damaged.
(06-22-2023, 09:12 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]He said out of the league in five years so no timeline.
Oooooh, I missed that, sorry.
(06-22-2023, 09:13 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]Just saying, we're not going to agree tonight if that's the hold up. I think he's on his way to being a nice player. Very soon.
This was said a bunch last offseason too. He has the tools and ability to be what you think he is, I just don't think he has the confidence.
Houston is ending the slide.
Did Lively do a pro day or combine?
Looks like he has no hops. Hopefully a Brook Lopez starter kit. Not Tyson Chandler
Shams Charania
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Sources: Houston is selecting Cam Whitmore at No. 20.
(06-22-2023, 09:14 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Houston is ending the slide.
And trading him to Dallas…?
Damn Joe Harris is expiring, too. That would be a great trade. Then start shopping THJ for a center.
(06-22-2023, 09:15 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [ -> ]Did Lively do a pro day or combine?
Looks like he has no hops. Hopefully a Brook Lopez starter kit. Not Tyson Chandler
Killing my dreams. KL trying to oversell another player to me? Damn you!
(06-22-2023, 09:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]What's your beef? Not right for the timeline?
I don't believe he will translate at all in the big leagues. He looked lost at times in college. He literally couldn't score, nor had any pet moves to allow him to score. I fear he will literally rely on Luka to feed him everything much like Powell. Sure his rim protection was solid, above average even, but his foul rate was at a pace that he'd foul out every game if he played enough minutes.
He's a dimensionless player that is 1-2 years away from being 1-2 years away. I don't think that is worth a 10th pick.
(06-22-2023, 09:10 PM)Dirknows Wrote: [ -> ]Lots of other teams are passing on him...
Does he drop to the 2nd round? Dude is going to have a serious chip on his shoulder.
(06-22-2023, 09:15 PM)speedkilz88 Wrote: [ -> ]Shams Charania
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Sources: Houston is selecting Cam Whitmore at No. 20.
Ooooooooooof
Of course Cam goes to Houston. He will rot in that toxic culture. Dude deserved more.