(05-22-2023, 09:57 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I’m really hoping that’s why they’re working out these late to no pick projected guys. I agree with Dan, the Hardy pick makes me think there might be something there with Nico (or is it Finley coming into his own when given some room?).
Yeah, maybe it is talent, but maybe it was blind luck. I mean Hardy was a top 5 player in his class for years and I am sure he was a target for Nike and Nico for years.
I am interested to see if they have an interest in Trevor Keels. The Sacramento trade for Hardy was probably discussed prior to the draft. There were rumors they liked Keels. Keels went right after Hardy. He was signed by the Knicks late in the season to the roster but released a little while after. He eventually signed back with the G-league team. But he may not be tied to a Knick contract any longer. If the Mavs liked him, it would be a smart move to offer him a minimum contract and give him the 15th spot.
Another interesting late 2nd/undrafted option. Already mentioned him last year but he decided to stay in europe.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/ousmane-n-diaye
As far as measurements and athleticism go he is the kind of big that all teams are searching for. Personally I want at least one bigmen development project on the roster/two-way next season.
(05-20-2023, 07:30 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure how he defends in the NBA, but I think Edey is being slept on. Much more than people think.
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/...0076654592
I like Edey too. Especially after seeing his lane agility and shuttle run results at the combine. They indicate he may be way more mobile than advertized.
(05-20-2023, 04:39 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]The Dallas Mavericks must do everything they can to get Oliver-Maxence Prosper. 6'8" , 7'1" wingspan. 1-5 on ball defending beast. Can be had in the second round. Perfect fit on our team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUr6hBbBM-w
A competent NBA front office would find a way to get this guy.
(05-22-2023, 08:34 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]A competent NBA front office would find a way to get this guy.
I guess that rules out Dallas and Minny.
(05-22-2023, 08:34 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: [ -> ]A competent NBA front office would find a way to get this guy.
I'm predicting the Spurs take him instead of Victor at the #1 pick.
(05-23-2023, 08:31 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]I'm predicting the Spurs take him instead of Victor at the #1 pick.
The pro-MBT trolling gets old after a while. Are you Cuban's burner account?
Cato’s podcast today had “Mavs Draft” (Richard) on to talk draft. Lot’s of talk of the value of moving back.
1. Move back to move bad salary for a more useful veteran
2. Move back for picks
3. Move back to combine the #10 with assets for someone good
Most of the talk was about #1. Richard likes the value in this area better than the guys at #10. When Tim asked for his favorite scenario, it was moving down to #16 to move Bertans (no player specified, but a June deal with Utah matches Olynyk) and drafting from among Bufkin, JHS from Indiana, Coulibaly and Jordan Hawkins. When pinned down to his favorite, he sees Noah Clowney as a riser and likes him better than Lively.
Olynyk makes about $5mm less than Bertans and would be more useful. He plays both C and PF and spreads the floor similar to Maxi. In fact, I could see him and Maxi sharing the PF position or I could see him making Maxi expendible in a deal for a center. Don’t know if that is Allen or Ayton or what.
(05-23-2023, 09:53 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]The pro-MBT trolling gets old after a while. Are you Cuban's burner account?
I think he is Cuban. Behaviour and ideas fit.
(05-23-2023, 11:49 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Cato’s podcast today had “Mavs Draft” (Richard) on to talk draft. Lot’s of talk of the value of moving back.
1. Move back to move bad salary for a more useful veteran
2. Move back for picks
3. Move back to combine the #10 with assets for someone good
Most of the talk was about #1. Richard likes the value in this area better than the guys at #10. When Tim asked for his favorite scenario, it was moving down to #16 to move Bertans (no player specified, but a June deal with Utah matches Olynyk) and drafting from among Bufkin, JHS from Indiana, Coulibaly and Jordan Hawkins. When pinned down to his favorite, he sees Noah Clowney as a riser and likes him better than Lively.
Olynyk makes about $5mm less than Bertans and would be more useful. He plays both C and PF and spreads the floor similar to Maxi. In fact, I could see him and Maxi sharing the PF position or I could see him making Maxi expendible in a deal for a center. Don’t know if that is Allen or Ayton or what.
I definitely can see Olynyk as an upgrade to Bertans. He plays slightly better defense, can put the ball on the floor, and has some nifty inside moves.
But compared to Maxi, his defense is weak. I don't think he makes Maxi expendable.
(05-23-2023, 11:56 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]I think he is Cuban. Behaviour and ideas fit.
Brought a small tear to my eye.
I'm flattered, really.
Need to go look at my checking account, and see if it's true.
(05-23-2023, 11:49 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Cato’s podcast today had “Mavs Draft” (Richard) on to talk draft. Lot’s of talk of the value of moving back.
1. Move back to move bad salary for a more useful veteran
2. Move back for picks
3. Move back to combine the #10 with assets for someone good
Most of the talk was about #1. Richard likes the value in this area better than the guys at #10. When Tim asked for his favorite scenario, it was moving down to #16 to move Bertans (no player specified, but a June deal with Utah matches Olynyk) and drafting from among Bufkin, JHS from Indiana, Coulibaly and Jordan Hawkins. When pinned down to his favorite, he sees Noah Clowney as a riser and likes him better than Lively.
Olynyk makes about $5mm less than Bertans and would be more useful. He plays both C and PF and spreads the floor similar to Maxi. In fact, I could see him and Maxi sharing the PF position or I could see him making Maxi expendible in a deal for a center. Don’t know if that is Allen or Ayton or what.
These guy broke up Porzingis into two pieces, cause it was more tradeable. Now they want to pay to trade one of those easily moveable pieces AFTER Porzingis will probably opt out of his contract. Ah well this front office has no shame, which is one of Cuban´s worst qualities. He might be a petty little child, but he has no shame to crawl back to washed-up Jordan or Deron. I´ll say it a hundred times. You do not salary dump an expiring contract after you sat on that trash for two years. Horrible asset management.
(05-23-2023, 11:49 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Cato’s podcast today had “Mavs Draft” (Richard) on to talk draft. Lot’s of talk of the value of moving back.
1. Move back to move bad salary for a more useful veteran
2. Move back for picks
3. Move back to combine the #10 with assets for someone good
Most of the talk was about #1. Richard likes the value in this area better than the guys at #10. When Tim asked for his favorite scenario, it was moving down to #16 to move Bertans (no player specified, but a June deal with Utah matches Olynyk) and drafting from among Bufkin, JHS from Indiana, Coulibaly and Jordan Hawkins. When pinned down to his favorite, he sees Noah Clowney as a riser and likes him better than Lively.
Olynyk makes about $5mm less than Bertans and would be more useful. He plays both C and PF and spreads the floor similar to Maxi. In fact, I could see him and Maxi sharing the PF position or I could see him making Maxi expendible in a deal for a center. Don’t know if that is Allen or Ayton or what.
I listened to it. I like Cato...really like him. But he is just learning about these prospects. I thought there is a good chance a wing/PF slips to 10. Mavsdraft thought Ausur has the best chance to be that one. I will need to watch more of him. I wasn't crazy about dropping back for those range of players without getting something really good.
I am still on board with pick 10 and Bertans and Bullock for Atlanta 15 and John Collins. It would really take ATL wanting to get off long term Collins money and seeing a player at 10 who they really like.
I like a Collins plus Lively or developmental wing type. That is the type of player I would be interested in moving down for.
(05-23-2023, 11:56 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: [ -> ]I definitely can see Olynyk as an upgrade to Bertans. He plays slightly better defense, can put the ball on the floor, and has some nifty inside moves.
But compared to Maxi, his defense is weak. I don't think he makes Maxi expendable.
Expendable might have been the wrong word. What I’m imagining is Olynyk takes Maxi’s role as a backup big and Maxi is included with Reggie (Allen trade) or with THJ (Ayton trade). 10 becomes 16 and the additions to the roster are Center, Olynyk and pick. Olynyk is basically a placeholder (Summer of Schwartz) until the draft pick is ready to roll.
I don’t have Utah’s exact cap sheet, but trade machine shows them just under the tax if this deal is done in June while Dallas saves somewhere around $12mm in salary and tax.
I would be extremely beyond dissapointed if Mavs move would be to move down from ten for Olynik. For a back-up. To save a little money. Mavs need to think big, not how they will save a little money, imho.
Olynik is a very bad defender, can't defend in space. I don't see his fit on Mavs. Bertans and Wood are as good shooters as he is, if this is what we are looking for. None of them is needed by Mavs. I like Olynik as a player, but I don't think he is close to what Mavs need. Even as a back-up. There are easier ways to dump 5 million of cap, even stretching Bertans makes more sense, imho.
Knicks traded #11 last draft for three protected future picks (2015 Milwaukee pick is protected just 1-4) and dumped Kemba. Part of a series of moves which gave them space to sign Brunson. This is imho a well executed trade down.
I didn't know that some of the best defensive prospects in this draft class are Dallas natives, funny, kids are learning how to play defense while the senior team is.. you know...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmqaplhBiw
