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I think if the Mavs do win, it'll be a 6 game series.

Mavs in 7 without homecourt?   That's dicey.

My main reasoning for picking the Mavs besides the obvious is that I don't think the Clippers improved that much while last time they played the Mavs were without Brunson, Powell and KP.

(05-18-2021, 12:20 PM)bin610 Wrote: [ -> ]My main reasoning for picking the Mavs besides the obvious is that I don't think the Clippers improved that much while last time they played the Mavs were without Brunson, Powell and KP.

Clips didn't have Ibaka, Batum, or Rondo last year. He's a big improvement over Harrell because he spaces the floor just like KP. He's coming off the IR with a back injury, but his experience will help them as well.  and Rondo needs no explanation when it comes playoff time.  I think they've improved.  But it remains to be seen. Can't wait for this series, and Bucks/Heat.

(05-18-2021, 11:44 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked that 28 folks think the Mavs will win the series while only 11 think LAC wins. 

Voting with the heart, not the head?

We just had the record prediction thread results. Same story. Most members overrated the Mavs.

(05-18-2021, 12:31 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We just had the record prediction thread results. Same story. Most members overrated the Mavs.

LOL, of course we did! This isn't ObjrectiveNBABoard, it's MAVSBOARD!!!!!

(05-18-2021, 11:44 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked that 28 folks think the Mavs will win the series while only 11 think LAC wins. 

Voting with the heart, not the head?

What kind of MFFL would I be if I didn't think the Mavs had a shot?

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(05-18-2021, 12:31 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]We just had the record prediction thread results. Same story. Most members overrated the Mavs.

The Mavs when they were mostly healthy (after 2/6) were on a 55 win pace and good for 4th best record in the league. That's about where most of us had em. 

Seems like COVID/Injuries affect a team record, who knew.

(05-18-2021, 12:44 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of MFFL would I be if I didn't think the Mavs had a shot?

Oh I am on the record saying I think the Mavs have a shot....like 20%. 

But I believe quite firmly this team is missing the needed "cohesion" to upset LAC (I have seen too much during this long season for me to ignore what I believe are fundamental chemistry flaws). So I just don't think they pull that 1 in 5 trick out of their hats. Would LOVE to be wrong though.

(05-18-2021, 12:36 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, of course we did! This isn't ObjrectiveNBABoard, it's MAVSBOARD!!!!!

But if we all vote Mavs, then what's the point?  

I find the point and fun of these polls is to get a sense of the SOBER assessment of the team from other fans.

(05-18-2021, 12:44 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]What kind of MFFL would I be if I didn't think the Mavs had a shot?

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The Mavs when they were mostly healthy (after 2/6) were on a 55 win pace and good for 4th best record in the league. That's about where most of us had em. 

Seems like COVID/Injuries affect a team record, who knew.

Injuries happen and we all knew that COVID outbreaks would have an impact on the season. The 55 win pace you mentioned is the unrealistic best case scenario. Take a look around the league. Yes COVID hit the Mavs hard. But other teams suffered from similiar problems. Portland played most of the season without their starting center. McCollum missed 24 games and needed some time to get back in rhythm. I already mentioned the Lakers. Imagine the Mavs but this time it is not only KP that is missing games. Luka is out for 26 games as well.
If you want to make your predicitions based on a best case scenario feel free to do it. Don´t be suprised if they are off.

Dirkfan, you include the Lakers there, but you agree they have a lot better shot than the normal 7 seed, right? Then why not the Mavs? 

Kam, you realize that “fan” isn’t short for sober, right?

(05-18-2021, 12:36 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, of course we did! This isn't ObjrectiveNBABoard, it's MAVSBOARD!!!!!

That´s the charm. Most of the community is completly wrong and the guy that was right all along (not even me) is the "hater".

(05-18-2021, 01:09 PM)Jommybone Wrote: [ -> ]Dirkfan, you include the Lakers there, but you agree they have a lot better shot than the normal 7 seed, right? Then why not the Mavs? 

Of course. That´s the entire point. Sleeping Hero mentioned the Mavs "healthy" record being good enough for the 4th seed. Well...healthy Blazers and Lakers are probably just as good or even better. Jazz or Suns would be worse if they had suffered from injuries or COVID. Jazz nearly dropped in the last few weeks because Conley and Mitchell missed some games.
Makes no sense to compare the best case scenario for one team and ignore that other teams had even worse problems.

(05-18-2021, 12:54 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]But if we all vote Mavs, then what's the point?  

I find the point and fun of these polls is to get a sense of the SOBER assessment of the team from other fans.

Yeah, that makes sense. I just know that I have to be part of the homer skew. I don't have the ability to be sober when picking a Mavs game of any kind.

Of course I want the Mavs to win and a 2nd round showing would be nice.  But all I'm rooting for in these playoffs is a healthy Porzingis as the end result.  Whether we keep KP this or not - a healthy KP coming out of these playoffs only improves the Mavs future.

(05-18-2021, 01:04 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Injuries happen and we all knew that COVID outbreaks would have an impact on the season. The 55 win pace you mentioned is the unrealistic best case scenario. Take a look around the league. Yes COVID hit the Mavs hard. But other teams suffered from similiar problems. Portland played most of the season without their starting center. McCollum missed 24 games and needed some time to get back in rhythm. I already mentioned the Lakers. Imagine the Mavs but this time it is not only KP that is missing games. Luka is out for 26 games as well.
If you want to make your predicitions based on a best case scenario feel free to do it. Don´t be suprised if they are off.

I agree with some of this, but I think we took a much bigger hit than just about the entire NBA due to Covid.  If KP gets that injury in a normal playoff timeline, he has plenty of time to recuperate and be ready for the start of the season.  This team also had way more lost games and lost starter games than just about any team (I think the Heat was the only team close).  That is different than your typical injury concerns.  It was a unique once a lifetime circumstance that really screwed this team.

(05-18-2021, 01:27 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]This team also had way more lost games and lost starter games than just about any team (I think the Heat was the only team close). 

The mentioned number only accounts for COVID related missed games. I already mentioned some other examples. AD missed 36 games (half of the season). LeBron missed 26 games.
This is a Mavs board and I get that most posters aren´t aware of other teams injury lists. Doesn´t mean that the Mavs are the only team with issues and  injury concerns.

(05-18-2021, 01:50 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]The mentioned number only accounts for COVID related missed games. I already mentioned some other examples. AD missed 36 games (half of the season). LeBron missed 26 games.
This is a Mavs board and I get that most posters aren´t aware of other teams injury lists. Doesn´t mean that the Mavs are the only team with issues and  injury concerns.

You aren't wrong, but to me, the most stunning thing about this team is how good the record is, not just with the Covid issues, but also with the major chemistry problems, roster holes, and the shocking letdowns versus bad teams - as if we were a good team. Which we almost are, and that's pretty startling given all of that.

(05-18-2021, 11:44 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked that 28 folks think the Mavs will win the series while only 11 think LAC wins. 

Voting with the heart, not the head?

Voting with the Luka (quote is from last year, but i doubt his mind changed)

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1296445698720829440

(05-18-2021, 03:32 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]You aren't wrong, but to me, the most stunning thing about this team is how good the record is, not just with the Covid issues, but also with the major chemistry problems, roster holes, and the shocking letdowns versus bad teams - as if we were a good team. Which we almost are, and that's pretty startling given all of that.

Agree. The Mavs won a lot of games against top competition and some of our more negative takes might be related to the crazy high expectations. A max player has the worst net rating among rotation players. The big trade acquisition joins him with the 2nd worst net rating. Two of the offseason signings are already gone. One of the midseason additions hasn´t played any meaningful minutes. Looks like a lottery team but some of the role players really stepped up and Luka carried them in february and march.