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(03-25-2023, 01:59 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Jalen’s performance this year should put to rest that last year was a fluke. We had two of the best one on one guys currently along with Dinwiddie who can handle the ball some. Plus we had good team chemistry. We continue to overrate standstill shooters. If most GMs had Luka and Jalen they would take it and find some standstill shooters. 

Losing Jalen was a disaster that has only looked worse everyday since then.

Agree.

I think the whole season we were close to collapse. On the court we had the same problems before the Kyrie trade and the same problems we have now after the Kyrie trade. Some of them are bigger than they were before.

In my opinion, we can all agree that we wanted JB replacement and someone who can lead the team when Luka is off. We were 0-7 or something like that without Luka before the trade. 

After we got that player, we lost the only one big wing defender in the trade and even bad defense became even weaker than before.

Looking optimistically, our FO has done that in purpose, put this season out and they will be looking for a player 3-4 in the next offseason or until next TDL.

Even without Kyrie trade, first round exit would be the best what that team could get this season. I didn't expect that they will miss playoffs, but i didn't expect that they can repeat last season.

I mean, remember Luka had to play 50 minutes against tanking teams this season...

I'm also not a fan of Kyrie, but letting him walk in the offseason would be another message to all fans and players, that 2 year in a row Mavs are losing players for nothing.

Still, i think the biggest reason for a bad season is Kidd. He lost lockeroom, he can't motivate player, he is benching players without a reason, he is making jokes of Mavs fans, on the court there is not any plan how to play, how to defend, players don't have defined roles... Just go on the court and try to outscore the opponent.

With the new coach i still think that team have potential and with 1-2 good signings/trades (center, power forward), maybe also bring Boban back for vet min. to improve chemistry that team can go far.

Last year Kings after Sabonis trade were in the similar spot and this year, they are currently 2 in the west. I hope that with the new coach we can also turn the situation in a similar way.

(03-25-2023, 11:53 AM)MAVS-SLO Wrote: [ -> ]2. Resign a Kyrie.

I'm not fan of Kyrie, but letting him go for nothing 3 months after trading for him would officialy make Dallas Mavericks joke franchise.

Resign him and see if they can figure the things in the next season with the new coach.

I mostly agree with your post--except for this.  The first few games I was impressed with Kyrie.  But now my original opinion is coming back.  I would only resign him now for a sign and trade (to the Lakers?)--if that is legal--I have no idea.  I'm not a technical, in depth fan.  I'm just a...long time "fan"...of basketball in general, and the Mavs specifically.

I am really tired of the Mavs muffing on trades, coming and going, and not getting good value either way.

Hard for me to believe but I'm almost truly considering tanking for the rest of the season.  I don't know if that would really help, or not--seems like we are between a rock and a hard place no matter what happens.  Who would have thought that is possible when you have a generational talent like Luka...

(03-26-2023, 08:56 AM)ballsrchr Wrote: [ -> ]I mostly agree with your post--except for this.  The first few games I was impressed with Kyrie.  But now my original opinion is coming back.  I would only resign him now for a sign and trade (to the Lakers?)--if that is legal--I have no idea.  I'm not a technical, in depth fan.  I'm just a...long time "fan"...of basketball in general, and the Mavs specifically.

I am really tired of the Mavs muffing on trades, coming and going, and not getting good value either way.

Hard for me to believe but I'm almost truly considering tanking for the rest of the season.  I don't know if that would really help, or not--seems like we are between a rock and a hard place no matter what happens.  Who would have thought that is possible when you have a generational talent like Luka...

Kyrie has had a few off games, but he's still averaging 27/5/6 on 50/39/93 with Dallas. Add in his 4th Q production and ability to play off ball and Steph Curry might be the only guard in the league who would be a better fit.

I think people are overreacting to a short stretch of games. I did expect the Mavs to play better post trade, but realistically it was always going to take an offseason to put the right complementary pieces in places.

(03-26-2023, 11:27 AM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]Kyrie has had a few off games, but he's still averaging 27/5/6 on 50/39/93 with Dallas. Add in his 4th Q production and ability to play off ball and Steph Curry might be the only guard in the league who would be a better fit.

I think people are overreacting to a short stretch of games. I did expect the Mavs to play better post trade, but realistically it was always going to take an offseason to put the right complementary pieces in places.

You may be right.  I just hope these few off games and "injuries, etc.) don't become a pattern.  I'll keep watching!

They tried to win.  But couldn’t handle a bad team.  I’ve really never seen such an underachieving team in my life.  So embarrassing to be a fan.

Ya this team is pathetic

They drop two to Charlotte and Luka gets a 1 game suspension. Time to pull the plug.

What a fascinating offseason for the Mavs.  I wonder what Cuban must be thinking.  Whatever it is, I fully expect him to make the wrong decisions.

Today we had a healthy team (yes, I think Luka is not 100 %) and last game we were missing Hardaway.  We needed to win both games.  Today they actually tried in the second half and they still couldn't beat a bad team missing several starters.  Wow.   

I mean you can't bring back the coach, GM and team next year with how this is playing.   But who is the sacrificial lamb?  I thought for certain Kidd was going to be back next year, but this is ugly.    Again, this was a must win game against a bad team and it felt like most Mavs games.    I don't know what to say.   I am not even mad watching these games.   My anger went away a long time ago this year.

Cuban needs to hire a pro and step back from the team for a couple of years. No more outside the box hires. No more ex Mavs.  This off-season is too complex, and Cuban is completely overmatched. The Mavs will need to make some hard decisions, including maybe even trading Luka. It’s a shame, but Cuban’s own arrogance has destroyed his franchise. All of the scandals and weirdness with this team have come home to roost.

(03-26-2023, 02:52 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Cuban needs to hire a pro and step back from the team for a couple of years. No more outside the box hires. No more ex Mavs.  This off-season is too complex, and Cuban is completely overmatched. The Mavs will need to make some hard decisions, including maybe even trading Luka. It’s a shame, but Cuban’s own arrogance has destroyed his franchise. All of the scandals and weirdness with this team have come home to roost.

I remember when I wanted to trade Dirk because I thought the MBT was too incompetent to build a contender. I had to bury several bodies to make the evidence go away. You never read this.

Lol.  Good point .  But at least those Mavs teams were good. I have much lower expectations than building a championship team. How about just a 50 win team. As an all time great, I can’t remember a player with as few wins as Luka.  I’m starting to wonder if maybe I haven’t overrated him. Great players win games. Maybe the Mavs should sell high?

Here is an interesting thought now that it looks likely we finish 10th in a very strong draft.

If we want to make sure that we keep the pick, do we offer the Knicks some incentive to modify the protections before the draft lottery?

Say lottery protected this year so we are guaranteed to keep the pick for unprotected going forward?

Maybe there is a player you really want and you don´t want to risk losing out on him.

Would you do it, if you are the Knicks? I would not, and hope that one team jumps up and I get the 11th pick.

(03-26-2023, 03:02 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Lol.  Good point .  But at least those Mavs teams were good. I have much lower expectations than building a championship team. How about just a 50 win team. As an all time great, I can’t remember a player with as few wins as Luka.  I’m starting to wonder if maybe I haven’t overrated him. Great players win games. Maybe the Mavs should sell high?

I think 50 wins is a fair expectation, but this is the only year outside of his rookie season that the Mavs haven't been good. I'm not giving up on a 24 year old as talented as Luka because they collapsed after a major trade while dealing with the worst coach in the league.

(03-26-2023, 08:56 AM)ballsrchr Wrote: [ -> ]I mostly agree with your post--except for this.  The first few games I was impressed with Kyrie.  But now my original opinion is coming back.  I would only resign him now for a sign and trade (to the Lakers?)--if that is legal--I have no idea.  I'm not a technical, in depth fan.  I'm just a...long time "fan"...of basketball in general, and the Mavs specifically.

I am really tired of the Mavs muffing on trades, coming and going, and not getting good value either way.

Hard for me to believe but I'm almost truly considering tanking for the rest of the season.  I don't know if that would really help, or not--seems like we are between a rock and a hard place no matter what happens.  Who would have thought that is possible when you have a generational talent like Luka...

I wasn't impressed with Kyrie from begginning, but for now he is doing his job as a proffesional. And those loses aren't his fault. In my opinion there is something what is going on behind the scenes in the Mavs. 

And players boycotting a Kidd seems pretty realistic to me. Body language, approach, effort isn't on the same level for months.

Also i'm not blaming Kyrie for losses. I'm not a fan of him, but most loses are Kidd's fault. Defense doesn't exist and every time in the clutch time, opponent just need to get basket close to the rim, because at the worst, they will get 2 free throws. 

Offensively that team isn't a bad, but defensively it's a disaster. We are readen book and every coach who watched few our games will now how to attack us (defeat) us.

Currently full tank must be priority now. If we can get a good wing prospect and trade for a defensive center the team can still be dangerous. With a new coach of course 

With that, i wouldn't mind resigning Kyrie and see where the things are going.

(03-26-2023, 02:52 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Cuban needs to hire a pro and step back from the team for a couple of years. No more outside the box hires. No more ex Mavs.  This off-season is too complex, and Cuban is completely overmatched. The Mavs will need to make some hard decisions, including maybe even trading Luka. It’s a shame, but Cuban’s own arrogance has destroyed his franchise. All of the scandals and weirdness with this team have come home to roost.

the only thing that will come close to fixing this is for him to just sell the team
time to focus on that pharma company, Cubes

(03-26-2023, 02:52 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: [ -> ]Cuban needs to hire a pro and step back from the team for a couple of years. No more outside the box hires. No more ex Mavs.  This off-season is too complex, and Cuban is completely overmatched. The Mavs will need to make some hard decisions, including maybe even trading Luka. It’s a shame, but Cuban’s own arrogance has destroyed his franchise. All of the scandals and weirdness with this team have come home to roost.

Signed in to like this post and bump it again...

(03-26-2023, 03:13 PM)loki Wrote: [ -> ]I think 50 wins is a fair expectation, but this is the only year outside of his rookie season that the Mavs haven't been good. I'm not giving up on a 24 year old as talented as Luka because they collapsed after a major trade while dealing with the worst coach in the league.

Ok. You’re talking me down here. They weren’t good before the trade, and I don’t think that’s the problem. But the coaching staff?  I really believe it’s cost the Mavs at least 10-12 wins this season.

Let‘s hope Chicago beats the Lakers, they are up 18 midway through the 3rd quarter. That would mean they get to 36 wins as well. 

Chicago and Utah have to pass us and we are almost guaranteed to keep our pick!

The Bulls are going to beat the Lakers. We must lose out.

(03-26-2023, 04:06 PM)Knutsen Wrote: [ -> ]Let‘s hope Chicago beats the Lakers, they are up 18 midway through the 3rd quarter. That would mean they get to 36 wins as well. 

Chicago and Utah have to pass us and we are almost guaranteed to keep our pick!

I completely forgot that there are no tiebreakers for ping-pong balls, so if we lose out, Utah needs to win just one more game. In that case we at least get a coin flip for 9th. That should be possible.