(06-03-2020, 05:13 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Teams will play 8 regular season games. Since teams will have a different total games played, anyone knows what will define the final order? Number of wins, percentage, something else? For example - Mavs are only 1 win behind fourth spot, but they have four more losses. So if only wins count, Mavs could quite easily jump up in the standings. Especially since schedule is not that difficult.
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Yeah this seems messy. Logically all 22 teams should have played the same amount of games. The Nets are 30-34 and the Magic are 30-35. So you are telling the Magic they need to go through the play-in tournaments with the same amount of wins?
Furthermore if they have a play-in tournament for the 8th seed in each conference and they have two teams from the East and six teams from the West, what do they do, when two West teams qualify? Does one get to play in the East bracket? Do they seed 1-16 with no conference. No way the Magic or Wizards can beat out all these WC teams.
Overall this sounds more like a money grab solution for the owners than a competitive sports deal. Whether we attach an asterisk to the title then solely depends on who wins the title #Lockdown LeBron
(06-03-2020, 05:54 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]what do they do, when two West teams qualify?
Not possible. There are two play-in tournaments, one for each conference. And only, if 9th seed is within 4 games of 8th seed. I guess mess will be, if there will be a couple of teams with same number of wins on 9th spot. Totally possible for the Western conference.
To elaborate on my previous doubts. Mavs are 40-27 at this point and both OKC and Houston are 40-24. If Mavs finish 5-3 and the other two with 4-4, Mavs will have 45-30 while OKC and Houston 44-28. Who is better?
(06-03-2020, 08:09 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2020, 05:54 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]what do they do, when two West teams qualify?
Not possible. There are two play-in tournaments, one for each conference. And only, if 9th seed is within 4 games of 8th seed. I guess mess will be, if there will be a couple of teams with same number of wins on 9th spot. Totally possible for the Western conference.
To elaborate on my previous doubts. Mavs are 40-27 at this point and both OKC and Houston are 40-24. If Mavs finish 5-3 and the other two with 4-4, Mavs will have 45-30 while OKC and Houston 44-28. Who is better?
The formula is:
[(wins-losses)-(wins-losses)]/2
In your scenario, Dallas would be behind OKC and Hou. Dal will have to win 2 more games than both or either team to get ahead of them.
Houston has: LaL, Por, Sac, Dal, Mil, Ind, Phi, Tor
OKC has: Uta, Was, Mem, Den, Mia, Den, Pho, LaC
Dallas has: Pho, LaC, Sac, Por, Pho, Hou, Uta, Mil
That Hou/Dal game could be the deciding game forefront leapfrog Hou. OKC is gonna have dome dog fights too. Not many push overs or any team esp since Booker always seems to go off on the Mavs.
(06-03-2020, 08:09 PM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2020, 05:54 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]what do they do, when two West teams qualify?
Not possible. There are two play-in tournaments, one for each conference. And only, if 9th seed is within 4 games of 8th seed. I guess mess will be, if there will be a couple of teams with same number of wins on 9th spot. Totally possible for the Western conference.
Yeah so this seems to designed to hit some threshold for the local TV deals to kick in. I mean there is really no big difference between just going straight to the play-offs with the 16 teams and this format of heavily protecting the 8th seed.
(06-04-2020, 12:57 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah so this seems to designed to hit some threshold for the local TV deals to kick in. I mean there is really no big difference between just going straight to the play-offs with the 16 teams and this format of heavily protecting the 8th seed.
Yeah. A lot of games for that play-in qualification, only to be destroyed by Lakers in round 1 of play-offs. But I guess the league really needs Zion hype.
(06-03-2020, 08:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]The formula is
Thanks. I would say OKC, Houston and Mavs have comparable schedules as far as difficulty goes. It will be interesting to see how Utah will look. They lost Bogdanovic and who knows if Mitchell and Gobert really put their thing behind them. A couple of losses might bring it up again...
(06-04-2020, 03:22 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. I would say OKC, Houston and Mavs have comparable schedules as far as difficulty goes. It will be interesting to see how Utah will look. They lost Bogdanovic and who knows if Mitchell and Gobert really put their thing behind them. A couple of losses might bring it up again...
Of course just in time for them to play us...
I think if Dal can win 6 of the 8 they will probably jump over at least 1 of the 2. We would also be going into the playoffs on a really big roll which would also be great.
Fingers crossed!
(06-04-2020, 10:48 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2020, 03:22 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks. I would say OKC, Houston and Mavs have comparable schedules as far as difficulty goes. It will be interesting to see how Utah will look. They lost Bogdanovic and who knows if Mitchell and Gobert really put their thing behind them. A couple of losses might bring it up again...
Of course just in time for them to play us...
I think if Dal can win 6 of the 8 they will probably jump over at least 1 of the 2. We would also be going into the playoffs on a really big roll which would also be great.
Fingers crossed!
Plus the mini-camp time will give RC a chance to see how the alphabet players, WKS and MKG, fit into the mix. Bringing them in mid-season didn't allow for much time in seeing how they would fit in. Not hoping for miracles, but just that they find a way to make a meaningful contribution, even if it's only for 10-12 minutes per game.
(06-03-2020, 08:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Dallas has: Pho, LaC, Sac, Por, Pho, Hou, Uta, Mil
Phoenix may be more interested in preserving their draft position, and we get them twice. Portland was the one team that voted against the return proposal and may not even want to be there. Milwaukee is highly likely to take the last game off with nothing to play for. Utah has major chemistry issues. And the Kings are the Kings. Not a bad draw for a Dallas team hoping to move up.
(06-04-2020, 02:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]Not a bad draw for a Dallas team hoping to move up.
I only hope we can avoid Clippers in round 1. I think we can be competitive against all others. Clippers are extremely strong and match-up nightmare for us.
(06-04-2020, 02:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2020, 08:34 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Dallas has: Pho, LaC, Sac, Por, Pho, Hou, Uta, Mil
Phoenix may be more interested in preserving their draft position, and we get them twice. Portland was the one team that voted against the return proposal and may not even want to be there. Milwaukee is highly likely to take the last game off with nothing to play for. Utah has major chemistry issues. And the Kings are the Kings. Not a bad draw for a Dallas team hoping to move up.
Yeah given that you only have 22 teams left, this is probably as good as it gets.
Ranking-wise we play
#21
#4
#20
#18
#21
#7
#10
#1 (with nothing to play for)
If we win the H2H with Utah/Houston, we could easily go 7-1 and move past them.
That being said nobody has a damn clue how this will play-out. The results could be a complete mess. You only need 1-2 key players to have some 30 extra pounds of hardened fat on their body and the whole team falls apart.
But let´s not act like Luka ain´t a candidate for some extra weight either. How will Porzingis react after he had just gotten back into his groove after a long lay-off?
How will some teams, that have a great homecourt advantage, react to losing it? At least that shouldn´t be a concern for the Mavs.
The new Vegas odds have Dallas at plus 3500, the eighth best odds to win the Title. I bet on the Mavs in Vegas last December when they were plus 3000 but more like 12-15th best odds if I remember. The odds makers like our strong point differential and our road record. I just like us period. I am going back in August and will very likely place an additional bet...unless we have already lost of course. The odds may be off the board once the playoffs start but I guess I will see.
I watched us beat Milwaukee in the Golden Nugget sports book. That was fun but not nearly as fun as watching win a playoff game would be!!!!!
I think this will be a lot of fun for Mav's fans.
We all know about DAL offensive efficiency. They can score on anybody. You have to have a top notch defense to slow them down.
That said, individual defense is about athletic ability and "want to". Team defense is a learning process where you learn your role and how to best fit with everyone else. It takes time. (That's one of the reasons I'm hoping there is not much roster churn this off season.) And time is going to be in short supply for this mini-season.
For this reason, I think avoiding the LACs is the key to a deep post season run. They are the only team with enough excellent individual defenders to bother DAL. Everything else is winnable, IMO. If Luka & Co. get a little more confidence, I like their chances against LAC as well, just not in the first round.
So Zion is going to make a big run but the Lakers are going to win the Championship?
Not sure both are possible.
I think they meant Zion is gonna have the runs.
(06-05-2020, 12:23 PM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]I think this will be a lot of fun for Mav's fans.
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Yes, but not only for Mavs fans, but for NBA fans all the way around.
Shaq and others have pointed out right so that there will be a big "*" on the winner of this season, and that is certainly true. At the same time, the championship from this year will forever get special attention, whether its positive or negative reference.
1) The
players will be playing under RISK of a very serious infection. The risk at that point they hope and we all hope if very low, but chances are very high despite all precautions, the risk will not be ZERO.
2) The players will be playing with possible increased increased injury risk starting with the 8 game run coming off a long layoff and without ??? how much real basketball contact before the season?
3) Some teams will actually be healthier than they normally would have been going into the special 8 games and the playoffs! That's sort of exciting on a whole different level. The
Mavs and other teams will be considerably less banged up than they would have been if the season had continued as normal.
4) Neutral location for games that actually count toward a championship? That's totally unprecedented and will be surreal to watch!
5) The country (and the world) will be starved for sporting entertainment at that point. Its late for the NBA but beats the NFL out of the gate.
I could go on, but my point is, there a ton of potential intrigue and talking points associated with this unique chapter in the history of the NBA and of sports.