(06-02-2021, 12:50 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]15-13 without him for the season. Winning record without the highest paid player. -4.9 on/off. -0.7 on court. Mavs are getting outscored when KP is on the floor. That´s not some irrational advanced metric. Simply what happens when KP is playing. Obviously a lineup stat so it might not be his fault but looking at the entire team it is pretty obvious that something is wrong. KP ranks last among rotation players. Only one close is Richardson (-4.7 on/off). Difference is that Richardson lost his starting spot. KP continues to be a net negative in the playoffs.
Yeah, I actually tried to delete that because I didn't look at the with Luka, but not KP numbers....the no Luka numbers made it look more even. I would say that the teams we played would factor in that as well. I'm going to point out as well, that the lineups he plays with should be running the offense through him, but they don't...they still just sit him in the corner and try to make him a decoy and without Luka, OF COURSE, they are going to look worse. If you put someone in, depend totally on his weaknesses and totally avoid his strengths, he's obviously going to have a bad metric...if you set him up to not contribute, he won't contribute.
Before you say, we are forced feeding him the ball...tell me, seriously, how many times have you seen that screen throw to the wing and immediately drop the ball into KP on the block for the quick hook? Answer: You don't. I honestly was talking with someone the other day going "why doesn't he have a jump hook?"...then they ran the play for it, he scored in quick fashion on Sunday annnnnnnddd...never ran it again. It was unbelievable that an entry pass actually was good and on time, and he immediatley turned and scored. It looked, honestly, like something off a highlight reel of him in New York, where he got a lot of quick passes in rhythm...that never happens here. He may just not be the guy here, but it's not just that KP is crap, like you guys seem to keep saying over and over...we don't know how to use him effectively beyond token touches in stretches to say they did.
People actually talk about thinks like "why doesn't he just rebound and dunk like Embiid" (I actually say this on Twitter, like it was just "duh" with a pile of hearts)...one Embiid outweighs KP by 50 pounds, and plays nearer the goal. They rarely ever have him guarding the perimter and because they run the offense through him, they have to have someone to guard Embiid, so he rarely ends up guarding a guy at the perimeter on defense, or sitting at the 3 point line on offense..both positions are hard to rebound from, especially when you are depending on height rather than quickness and power, and aren't a good rebounder to start with....and KP isn't.
I still think you are doing a 2+2=3 thing, because I sincerely doubt that if we played the Clipps 5 games with KP and 5 games without him (or any other playoff contender...maybe ESPECIALLY any other playoff contender) that we would say that we were better. I doubt if we just subbed in Davis Bertans (who's probably 70% of KP's talent) that we'd be better.
I think a good amount of you have made him the scapegoat and are on a search for any metric that could be stretched to make yourself think he's trash. That's cool. I'm a Mavs fan, so I'm a KP fan as long as he's a Mav....and while he is a Mav, I want him to play well. I'm cool trading him and getting something wonderful, but as long as he looks terrible, you aren't getting Robert Williams III for him...please....seriously?????? Dan, come on.
I think that fans in general get the "grass is always greener" syndrome and underrate the players they hate, overrate the players they like (me too in that btw) and thank the Lord, we aren't GMs or we'd probably have the worst team ever.