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omahen · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2021, 03:33 PM by omahen.)

(02-23-2021, 03:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Dallas gets Drummond and Wiseman (Schwartz special)
Golden State gets KP and Iwundu (Death lineup 2.0)
Cleveland gets Wiggins (full circle)

Who says no?

I'd say Dallas. I am sure KP should be worth more than Wiseman. It doesn't make sense to move him if he is not at the moment. Build up his trade value first. Drummond is just an expiring here since you got your center in Wiseman. You should look for another partner with GSW paying the price. I would rather have OPJ, for example. Or DeRozan.

Or we can just eat Wiggins contract and include Atlanta to the mix. For example sending Brunson, Green, Dal pick and GSW pick to Atlanta for Collins.

Omega_Supreme · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2021, 03:35 PM by Omega_Supreme.)

(02-23-2021, 03:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Random idea combining a few rumors:

Dallas gets Drummond and Wiseman (Schwartz special)
Golden State gets KP and Iwundu (Death lineup 2.0)
Cleveland gets Wiggins (full circle)

Who says no?

BTW, my working assumption is that with 3 huge expirings Dallas would follow that up with a call to Atlanta to see if they want to trade us Collins now or match our max offer this summer. I'm thinking a young frontcourt of Collins/Wiseman would look pretty nice next to Luka for a while.

How about this one

Dallas gets Drummond and Wiseman (Schwartz special)
Golden State gets KP and Iwundu (Death lineup 2.0)
Cleveland gets Al Horford
OKC gets Wiggins

cow · 02-23-2021, 03:39 PM

(02-23-2021, 03:22 PM)Tyler Wrote: Random idea combining a few rumors:

Dallas gets Drummond and Wiseman (Schwartz special)
Golden State gets KP and Iwundu (Death lineup 2.0)
Cleveland gets Wiggins (full circle)

Who says no?

BTW, my working assumption is that with 3 huge expirings Dallas would follow that up with a call to Atlanta to see if they want to trade us Collins now or match our max offer this summer. I'm thinking a young frontcourt of Collins/Wiseman would look pretty nice next to Luka for a while.

GSW and CLE say no.

**KillerLeft** · 02-23-2021, 03:41 PM

(02-23-2021, 03:32 PM)omahen Wrote: I am sure KP should be worth more than Wiseman.

Wow. Not sure I agree with that. Not saying I would be super excited about that trade, necessarily, but I wonder if your gut is correct on that one.

omahen · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2021, 03:43 PM by omahen.)

(02-23-2021, 03:33 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: How about this one

Dallas gets Drummond and Wiseman (Schwartz special)
Golden State gets KP and Iwundu (Death lineup 2.0)
Cleveland gets Al Horford
OKC gets Wiggins

Why you guys think Dallas needs Drummond and Wiseman? And Powell, and WCS and Bobi. Let's go get Lopez from Washington too, if we are collecting overpaid dinosaur centers.

(02-23-2021, 03:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Wow. Not sure I agree with that. Not saying I would be super excited about that trade, necessarily, but I wonder if your gut is correct on that one.

As I said. If he is not, the KP situation would have to be really bad for Mavs to think this is a good trade.

ClutchDirk · 02-23-2021, 04:01 PM

KP should only be for a Beal Lavine level of player...

No prospects...no average starter...the Luka clock is ticking...

Jason Terry · 02-23-2021, 04:01 PM

(02-23-2021, 03:42 PM)omahen Wrote: Why you guys think Dallas needs Drummond and Wiseman? And Powell, and WCS and Bobi. Let's go get Lopez from Washington too, if we are collecting overpaid dinosaur centers.

As I said. If he is not, the KP situation would have to be really bad for Mavs to think this is a good trade.

If the situation was decent then he would be playing tonight. There wouldn’t be rumors. I think it’s time to realize there’s much more going on behind the scenes. And the return will likely be underwhelming. If he is team cancer then we cannot afford to wait. Him just being hurt or working his way back would be one thing. We would stick by him through that. If we’re seriously considering moving him then it’s beyond repair

omahen · 02-23-2021, 04:09 PM

(02-23-2021, 04:01 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: If he is team cancer then we cannot afford to wait.

The same report you are refering too said actually exactly the opposite

Jason Terry · 02-23-2021, 04:22 PM

(02-23-2021, 04:09 PM)omahen Wrote: The same report you are refering too said actually exactly the opposite

We will see. It’s not like they will voluntarily throw the truth out there for public consumption

TXBamanut · 02-23-2021, 04:26 PM

(02-23-2021, 10:18 AM)TXBamanut Wrote:

KP for that would be worse than the KP for Dennis trade was for NY...

He's not going anywhere...geez, ya'll.
1) Several players talked about how hard the practices were this week. It's highly likely that he is experiencing some back stiffness.
2) Last night was the first night of a back to back against a team that was super understaffed.
3) Tonight is a nationally televised game.
4) The league has serious rules now about holding major players out of nationally televised games.

If he's out tonight, then I'm a little concerned about his back....then down the line, maybe trades.

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1364...80514?s=20

hmm...

omahen · 02-23-2021, 04:28 PM

(02-23-2021, 04:22 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: It’s not like they will voluntarily throw the truth out there for public consumption

But it is you who chose that one part is true and other is not Smile

That was my point.

**StepBackJay** · 02-23-2021, 04:28 PM

(02-23-2021, 03:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Wow. Not sure I agree with that. Not saying I would be super excited about that trade, necessarily, but I wonder if your gut is correct on that one.

I would be excited ab Wiseman. 2nd pick in the draft. The Warriors would be getting a guy that fits their winning window better and play style. I am not sure the Warriors would do that deal. The trouble with KP is teams might think he's damaged goods.

I did read a Warriors blog this morning that made me mad. It was basically saying they should only give up trash players + a protected Cleveland pick for KP.

All that to say it would not shock me at all if Mavs try to get off of KP's contract, get some kind of asset(s) back (likely a pick or two) and then play the cap space game again.

Fuerza1 · 02-23-2021, 05:16 PM

I am getting DeJa Vu with all this KP trade talk. This is literally the same thing that happened with Dennis Bust Jr. Out with a mysterious "back injury." Deny, deny, deny with "No, the trade talk is bull****!" However way this goes, glad to see the MBT are still paying attention to their on court product.

Any way Karl Anthony Towns is available? He always seems to be disgruntled with the organization (not fan of new coach), banged up with injury last 2 seasons, and may need a new change of scenery after all he's been through the past year. The Towns injury concerns are legit, but might be worth a swing like KP originally was. Mavs are desperate for star power.

**Kammrath** · 02-23-2021, 05:51 PM

(02-23-2021, 05:16 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: Any way Karl Anthony Towns is available?

He would be my absolute #1 target with a KP trade.

**Kammrath** · 02-23-2021, 05:52 PM

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1364347111601397763

cow · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2021, 06:58 PM by cow.)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

khaled1987 · 02-23-2021, 07:01 PM

(02-23-2021, 07:48 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Jake Fischer (who wrote this) is legit though. Even Marc Stein follows him on Twitter.

Didn't know that, but yeah judging by media reaction it seems he is known

(02-23-2021, 10:57 AM)omahen Wrote: Minnesota 1st is top three protected and it might be very likely it will end up in top 3.

And totally unprotected next season. Even better for us tbh
Chet Holmgren will be in that draft, could be great for us or great trading asset that has no "maximum contract" or "injuries" tag on it.

(02-23-2021, 05:51 PM)Kammrath Wrote: He would be my absolute #1 target with a KP trade.

Ideally Mavs should be eyeing this generation of superstars in the next couple of years, and loading assets fopr them.
KAT, Booker etc. Those who has good connection with Luka and would love to play with him and could force a trade to the Mavs between 2022 and 2023
Skill wise, I always thought KAT as the closest thing we have seen to Dirk, who is his idol btw (but will never get that comparison since he isn't from Europe)

(02-23-2021, 04:01 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: KP should only be for a Beal Lavine level of player...

No prospects...no average starter...the Luka clock is ticking...

What clock? He will sign a 4+1 year contract in 5 months, already made playoff past year and will soon make another one.
The important thing, is to have a true contender by 2023, and if KP isn't the answer and Lavine or Beal aren't on the table, then we should at least reload our assets for the next big thing available.

**KillerLeft** · 02-23-2021, 07:07 PM

(02-23-2021, 07:01 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: What clock? He will sign a 4+1 year contract in 5 months, already made playoff past year and will soon make another one.
The important thing, is to have a true contender by 2023, and if KP isn't the answer and Lavine or Beal aren't on the table, then we should at least reload our assets for the next big thing available.

I concur.

ClutchDirk · 02-23-2021, 07:12 PM

The money clock...right now we have more room for spending...

cow · (This post was last modified: 02-23-2021, 07:15 PM by cow.)

(02-23-2021, 07:01 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: What clock? He will sign a 4+1 year contract in 5 months, already made playoff past year and will soon make another one.
The important thing, is to have a true contender by 2023, and if KP isn't the answer and Lavine or Beal aren't on the table, then we should at least reload our assets for the next big thing available.

If you can't put a contender around him, he can always ask out. Don't assume or expect patience from Luka.

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