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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived
(12-21-2020, 12:51 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: So, in a sense, I agree. But, having glimpsed a little bit about how things like this work in the Mavs organization, I can tell you that there’s much less connection between “departments” than you might think. 

My informed guess is that Donnie, Carlisle and the player/personnel side has very little interest in the marketing side, and that the marketing guys aren’t really given access to much of their thinking.


interesting
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(12-21-2020, 12:51 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: So, in a sense, I agree. But, having glimpsed a little bit about how things like this work in the Mavs organization, I can tell you that there’s much less connection between “departments” than you might think. 

My informed guess is that Donnie, Carlisle and the player/personnel side has very little interest in the marketing side, and that the marketing guys aren’t really given access to much of their thinking.
I don´t know. Carlisle informed Noel via live interview on media day that he was not starting.  Big Grin
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https://twitter.com/TomerAzarly/status/1...5792784384
Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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(12-21-2020, 02:00 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/TomerAzarly/status/1...5792784384
Kawhi to Dallas confirmed!
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(12-21-2020, 12:41 PM)Tyler Wrote: If anyone is wondering what the Mavs front office projects as the starting lineup once KP is healthy, their media guide cover offers a pretty good clue.

https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1341075119230373889

Thanks for posting this Tyler...  Wow, everything you ever wanted to know about the Mavs.
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(12-21-2020, 12:48 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Hey now!! That was my lineup before Dan convinced me that I might be wrong! :-D

Interesting! I had already conceded that Powell would be the starter when KP is back but I am going to retract that until we actually see it. Powell would look really good with Maxi in that second unit.
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(12-21-2020, 04:01 PM)StepBackJay Wrote:
(12-21-2020, 12:48 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Hey now!! That was my lineup before Dan convinced me that I might be wrong! :-D

Interesting! I had already conceded that Powell would be the starter when KP is back but I am going to retract that until we actually see it. Powell would look really good playing for some other team.

FIFY
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https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/...5338056706
Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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[b]5. Porter will be traded at the deadline[/b]
Forty-two games for Porter doesn’t sound so bad now, huh?
The Bulls have been scheduled to play 37 games in the first half of the season, which takes them through March 3. The trading deadline is March 25. So 42 sounds about right, assuming a few nights off for rest or minor bumps and bruises here and there.
The right deal for Porter could be tricky to find thanks to his $28 million contract. Even with it set to expire at season’s end, most teams (save any with massive trade exceptions) will have to match that money, which means relinquishing a starter — not happening — or multiple players (it’s complicated).
I’ll save trade scenarios for a future column, but with Williams in the fold, and given the way the Bulls already are flirting with moving Porter to the bench, a deadline trade wouldn’t come as a surprise no matter how complex it may be. And with the 2021 free-agent class drying up, it could be a chance for Karnišovas to take back additional salary beyond the 2020-21 season.


https://theathletic.com/2275448/2020/12/...edictions/
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(12-21-2020, 04:43 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/...5338056706
What's everybodys thoughts on this?

Seems like MBT prioritses room over JRich when they apparently didn't even try to find a deal...
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(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)omahen Wrote: Here is a list of 2021 free agents left that I would consider as starters on Mavs next year. I am excluding 30+ oldtimers like Lowry and Conley. List in no particular order.

UFA: OPJ, Oladipo, Schroeder, Fournier (6th man), Oubre
RFA: Isaac, Kennard, Collins, Anunoby, White, Hart, Trent, Robinson


Update on the list. 

All those saying how rich 2021 FA class will be should be ashamed of themselves...

(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)WillE Wrote: What's everybodys thoughts on this?

Seems like MBT prioritses room over JRich when they apparently didn't even try to find a deal...


Totally expected. Why jump into a deal now? Both sides get to see how it will go and then have better grounds to negotiate. I am sure Mavs will have no problem showing the money if JRich performs as expected. 

If he doesn't want to be here, we have no control whatsoever.
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(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)omahen Wrote:
(12-20-2020, 08:32 PM)omahen Wrote: Here is a list of 2021 free agents left that I would consider as starters on Mavs next year. I am excluding 30+ oldtimers like Lowry and Conley. List in no particular order.

UFA: OPJ, Oladipo, Schroeder, Fournier (6th man), Oubre
RFA: Isaac, Kennard, Collins, Anunoby, White, Hart, Trent, Robinson


Update on the list.

All those saying how rich 2021 FA class will be should be ashamed of themselves...

(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)WillE Wrote: What's everybodys thoughts on this?

Seems like MBT prioritses room over JRich when they apparently didn't even try to find a deal...


Totally expected. Why jump into a deal now? Both sides get to see how it will go and then have better grounds to negotiate. I am sure Mavs will have no problem showing the money if JRich performs as expected.

If he doesn't want to be here, we have no control whatsoever.

He seems to like it so far.
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I hope it’s Richardson that didn’t want to extend. Mavs would be stupid not to extend him at 4/$72 right now.
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(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)omahen Wrote: Update on the list. 

All those saying how rich 2021 FA class will be should be ashamed of themselves...



Totally expected. Why jump into a deal now? Both sides get to see how it will go and then have better grounds to negotiate. I am sure Mavs will have no problem showing the money if JRich performs as expected. 

If he doesn't want to be here, we have no control whatsoever.

White gone now also.

JRich can only get a 20% raise on the extension.  So, deal starting at $13.9mm.  If he bets on himself and loses he just takes the $11.6mm he’s guaranteed next year.  But, if he bets on himself and wins, the benefit could be pretty big for him.

BTW, this doesn’t preclude an in-season extension.  Richardson would would simply opt out of next season (which was the presumption anyway).  Today’s deadline was for players with more than this season remaining.
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(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)WillE Wrote: What's everybodys thoughts on this?

Seems like MBT prioritses room over JRich when they apparently didn't even try to find a deal...

They may have tried, but they can only offer 120% of his current salary in an extension. Both sides know he's worth much more than that, so it would have been a very short conversation.
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(12-21-2020, 06:08 PM)omahen Wrote: All those saying how rich 2021 FA class will be should be ashamed of themselves...

I think a lot of players were spooked by the pandemic and decided that guaranteed money is the best option right now
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Well that makes sense. No way he’d sign for $13.9 + 5% raises.
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(12-21-2020, 06:53 PM)MFFL Wrote: I think a lot of players were spooked by the pandemic and decided that guaranteed money is the best option right now


What are you trying to say? That they rather took discounted deals than bet on themselves? With perhaps the exception of Isaac, all deals are huge. Fultz got 50 mil for 3 years, Kennard got 64 for 4 years, OG got 72 mil for 4 years,... None of them could have a realistic hope to get a much better deal next year. 

It is the owners who are locking their guys rather than risk free agency. Like tax doesn't matter. Clippers will be deep in tax, Orlando has 125 guaranteed salary already with 12 players under contract (looks like Fournier will be gone).
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(12-21-2020, 07:04 PM)omahen Wrote: It is the owners who are locking their guys rather than risk free agency. Like tax doesn't matter. Clippers will be deep in tax, Orlando has 125 guaranteed salary already with 12 players under contract (looks like Fournier will be gone).

He's a salary match for Johnson Smile

BTW, that Kennard deal is the floor for THJ and JRich.  The path to improvement will be some kind of Johnson Plus deal and bring back THJ and JRich (unless THJ is the Plus...which I doubt).
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(12-21-2020, 07:33 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: He's a salary match for Johnson Smile


I know Smile I guess his price will not be huge and he would be a great 6th man for us. So why not (for example) Johnson+Brunson or Johnson+2027 FRP.

Another interesting option for a bit overpaid player who can play would be Rozier, another salary match for Johnson. I assume Charlotte will want to move Ball in the starting five soon. Than they basically have to decide between Rozier or Graham.
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