DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know."

[Scott41theMavs]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/statu...7632931853

Dammit, he didn't fit there the first time. Wish the Mavs had gotten in on this - the MLE with no state tax is even with that deal. And you don't have to live in the bad city.

[Thukydides]

So only Atlanta, New York and Charlotte with more than MLE money left. No wonder it´s slow developing. Atlanta is suddenly super attractive, if you want to get paid.

Bogdanovic allegedly plans to sign an offer sheet with the Hawks.

[Hypermav]

[b]Detroit, please, WHAT ARE YOU DOING (Friday, 7:18 p.m.)[/b]
[b]• Pistons:[/b] Mason Plumlee signed a three-year, $25 million deal with Detroit, and then minutes later Detroit announced it signed Jahlil Okafor to a two-year deal (presumably for the minimum).
I’m sorry, but … WHAT?!?!?!
Plumlee is a halfway decent backup center that BORD$ rated as a $3.5 million proposition. He’s also 30, so his best years are almost certainly behind him. This deal would be a bad value on the face of it, but it gets worse the deeper you dig.
For starters, this deal likely takes Detroit out of the market for Christian Wood – you know, the center they already had who is actually good – because it cuts the Pistons to just $3.45 million in cap rom. Technically Detroit can still keep Wood if he re-signs as an Early Bird free agent for $10 million or less, but that prospect seems increasingly dim based on the hordes of centers the Pistons keep acquiring.
Also, the Pistons aren’t exactly in win-now mode. Where does paying a 30-year-old career backup fit into the plan here?
Wait, I’m still getting warmed up. Even supposing that the Pistons wanted a veteran center around, this isn’t even close to the best option available. Plumlee may not be any better than Isaiah Stewart, Tony Bradley, Dewayne Dedmon or Okafor — the other FOUR centers Detroit acquired in the past 72 hours (yes, really) — but signing him took the Pistons out of the mix for the many other players who might be.
Had Detroit wanted a starting veteran center, the Pistons had $11.5 million in cap room – trumping any team with the mid-level exception. Even if they didn’t want to use it on Wood, that room is almost certainly enough money to put them in the mix for the likes of Hassan Whiteside, Montrezl Harrell, Jakob Poeltl, Derrick Favors or Serge Ibaka.
Finally, did you know there were four other positions besides center? Detroit used all its cap space to acquire Plumlee and Bradley, traded shooting guard Tony Snell for Dedmon, and then burned a roster spot on Okafor for good measure. They have five centers and only two players who can dribble (three if you count Dzanan Musa dribbling into a contested 40-footer), and now they have no money left to acquire any others.
Overall, we have an early leader in the contest for the worst free-agent contract.
On a positive note, congratulations to agent Mark Bartelstein, who has to be some kind of warlock to get Plumlee paid this much.

https://theathletic.com/2211044/2020/11/...s-hearing/

[Aussiebballer]

Man, that´s a lot of money for often injured Favors. Always had my eyes on him, but this price is steep.

It’s just MLE for 3 years.
were you expecting him to get less then the MLE?

[omahen]

So only Atlanta, New York and Charlotte with more than MLE money left. No wonder it´s slow developing. Atlanta is suddenly super attractive, if you want to get paid.

SnT rules

[ClutchDirk]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329948030569689089

[cow]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/statu...7632931853

Dammit, he didn't fit there the first time. Wish the Mavs had gotten in on this - the MLE with no state tax is even with that deal. And you don't have to live in the bad city.

One day we will agree on a big man, but that day is not today.  haha

[Thukydides]

Man, that´s a lot of money for often injured Favors. Always had my eyes on him, but this price is steep.

It’s just MLE for 3 years.
were you expecting him to get less then the MLE?

I saw him in the 7-8 mio range. Double digits are surprinsing to me. Do you see him as valuable as Josh Richardson as a non-shooting center?

[sefant]

Maybe Wood is available for the MLE no state tax?

[omahen]

Maybe Wood is available for the MLE no state tax?

Charlotte needs a center, so I could see them with a bigger offer

[Scott41theMavs]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/statu...7632931853

Dammit, he didn't fit there the first time. Wish the Mavs had gotten in on this - the MLE with no state tax is even with that deal. And you don't have to live in the bad city.

One day we will agree on a big man, but that day is not today. haha

For discussion's sake, please name five big men you like, regardless of contract situation, as they are as players in 2020.

[HanspardsShowerVoice]

I wish there was a way to rent an NBA front office executive for like 30 minutes and have him break down the disparity of how NBA Front Offices think vs. how fans think about players like Favors.

[Aussiebballer]

Let’s say Detroit wanted to go big.
Wouldn’t signing Ibaka and then re-signing Wood be a much better option?
Both much more versatile players then the 5 bigs they have acquired.

[aguiar95]

Maybe Wood is available for the MLE no state tax?

Charlotte needs a center, so I could see them with a bigger offer

CHA did draft 2 centers, so maybe they're fine not paying Woods.

[Scott41theMavs]

Think it's getting pretty transparent that there isn't going to be any Mavs news this evening. I would wager all of the irons they have in the fire involve trades and sign-and-trades. That means waiting on other teams to get the rest of their crap done - as well as for the three cap room teams to run out of space.

[Thukydides]

I wish there was a way to rent an NBA front office executive for like 30 minutes and have him break down the disparity of how NBA Front Offices think vs. how fans think about players like Favors.

Curious. What would you expect to be the answer? I don´t think there would be much of a disparity to be honest.

[HanspardsShowerVoice]

Let’s say Detroit wanted to go big.
Wouldn’t signing Ibaka and then re-signing Wood be a much better option?
Both much more versatile players then the 5 bigs they have acquired.

One thing I've gathered from reading a lot of articles about Wood is that there has always been a skepticism around Pistons and their fans that they could keep him because he really wants to play for a winning team.

[cow]

For discussion's sake, please name five big men you like, regardless of contract situation, as they are as players in 2020.

I don't dislike Favors and was pleasantly surprised by his rebounding this past season. That contract is too rich for my blood.

[Aussiebballer]

Man, that´s a lot of money for often injured Favors. Always had my eyes on him, but this price is steep.

It’s just MLE for 3 years.
were you expecting him to get less then the MLE?

I saw him in the 7-8 mio range. Double digits are surprinsing to me. Do you see him as valuable as Josh Richardson as a non-shooting center?

Depends on the role you want him to play.
a starting big for MLE is a great get.
A backup big for MLE is ok, less if they can get played off the floor in the playoffs.
But with the quality of free agents this offseason I always thought he would get at least MLE money.

[HanspardsShowerVoice]

I wish there was a way to rent an NBA front office executive for like 30 minutes and have him break down the disparity of how NBA Front Offices think vs. how fans think about players like Favors.

Curious. What would you expect to be the answer? I don´t think there would be much of a disparity to be honest.

That fans think he's a starting 4 for a contending team and NBA front offices dont.  Though I guess Utah has just proven me wrong on that, but they have a long background with Favors and they have one of the worst 4 situations of any contending team.