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(05-19-2022, 03:41 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Can't agree with you here. Luka was 4-8 from the field (3-6 from 3) when guarded by Wiggins and had converted an and-1. Luka missed a LOT of what the NBA classifies as wide-open shots and in my opinion the refs let Wiggins get away with very physical D that never got called. I did think Luka looked a step slow, yet still managed to get 18 in a half.
Not concerned at all with him being able to score. More concerned about how stagnant the offense looked and how none of the actions the Mavs ran let them get any paint penetration.
Warriors were ranked 2nd in defending the 3, and 2nd in defensive efficiency. If the Mavs can't make 3's consistently, this will be a short series. I expect a few wrinkles from Kidd on Friday.
(05-19-2022, 03:41 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Can't agree with you here. Luka was 4-8 from the field (3-6 from 3) when guarded by Wiggins and had converted an and-1. Luka missed a LOT of what the NBA classifies as wide-open shots and in my opinion the refs let Wiggins get away with very physical D that never got called. I did think Luka looked a step slow, yet still managed to get 18 in a half.
Not concerned at all with him being able to score. More concerned about how stagnant the offense looked and how none of the actions the Mavs ran let them get any paint penetration.
I don't buy it either. Luka had 18 at halftime. Then when things went south early in the 3rd he mailed it in hard and took the rest of the game off to save energy for game 2 and not risk aggravating his shoulder further. For some reason Kidd left him in the game for most of the 4th quarter when he probably shouldn't have played him in the 4th at all.
Game 2 is a must-win if they want to win the series. I don't see them getting away with taking 2 games at home again...the Warriors are too good and experienced.
With the Suns, their offense is entirely based on CP3 and Booker ISOs/screens and their ability to score or create offense for others with the attention they get. Like the Bucks and Mavs showed, if you can limit CP3 then they are beatable.
With the Warriors, they run a complete Motion offense where there is so much off-ball movement that challenges the team defense. It's not as simple as putting a good individual defender like Bullock/DFS/Ntilikina on a scorer. Kerr's offense will find ways with all of the scoring guards they have.
It will be very tough, there is a reason why the Warriors have only lost two playoff series with Kerr over the years
(05-19-2022, 03:41 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Can't agree with you here. Luka was 4-8 from the field (3-6 from 3) when guarded by Wiggins and had converted an and-1. Luka missed a LOT of what the NBA classifies as wide-open shots and in my opinion the refs let Wiggins get away with very physical D that never got called. I did think Luka looked a step slow, yet still managed to get 18 in a half.
Not concerned at all with him being able to score. More concerned about how stagnant the offense looked and how none of the actions the Mavs ran let them get any paint penetration.
Agree, that statement was not correct. They had an extra guy in paint waiting for Luka all game long. It is that that made Luka slow down with a step naturally in penetration. We have seen it before. Early in season when 3 point shots not falling, it was exactly the same, teams would stack the paint. Same strategy was used by GSW. They decided to leave the perimeter open and protect the paint. They dont want to be beaten by Luka in the paint, but let our other guys beat them, or Luka from the 3, but not allow Luka in the paint. This is "easy" to get around, by making the open shots. If the open shots in 1st quarter fell in, we would have been up by 10 points at least and the game would look a lot different, as well as defensive coverage from GSW.
(05-19-2022, 10:05 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]Game 2 is a must-win if they want to win the series.
Suns in first two games looked better and more unbeatable than GSW in this game. It something similar. I don't believe this is a must win game at all. But. We need to start making the open 3s. If not, we stand no chance. If we make the outside shots, GSW will need to sit more tight on the perimeter, and then it will allow Luka to operate the paint.
I believe that for some if not many of our players, the first game and the pressure was a little bit a lot. Like it was in the semi's against the Suns. Sooner rather than later they will let it go and play their best and make those open shots.
3s will come. Bigger concern for me is whether Luka can improve as he figures out what they did to him. History says he will.
Looking at game one and the analysis others have provided, I think it's pretty clear to my great surprise that GS is closer to the Suns' level of talent than I thought - perhaps superior, even, with Poole's emergence - and that it will take even bigger coaching and performance miracles to beat them. Hope Kidd, Luka and co. figure it out.
(05-20-2022, 11:21 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at game one and the analysis others have provided, I think it's pretty clear to my great surprise that GS is closer to the Suns' level of talent than I thought - perhaps superior, even, with Poole's emergence - and that it will take even bigger coaching and performance miracles to beat them. Hope Kidd, Luka and co. figure it out.
While not as bad as the Mavs, the Dubs have had some clunkers in the playoffs. On the one hand, I don't expect the likes of Wiggins, Looney and Porter Jr to be as efficient as they were in game one, but on the other, you can't count on the Warriors, Curry especially, to shoot free throws as poorly as they did in the first half which kept the game relatively close. I don't expect us to be as cold as we were from three either so things may balance out. Defending the Warriors ball and player movement is a whole other animal though. Maybe we'll see more zone looks?
(05-20-2022, 12:05 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Defending the Warriors ball and player movement is a whole other animal though. Maybe we'll see more zone looks?
Don’t think the Mavs go zone. Zone will give the Warriors more open 3s. Think the defense was actually “okay” for a game 1. The Warriors made 27/43 (~63%) on non-restricted area 2s. Those are the shots that the Mavs want Golden State to take, but unfortunately they made most of them.
The real trouble for the Mavs’ defense was in transition. The Warriors really pushed it after Luka misses or turnovers. We know the Mavs missed a lot of open and wide-open 3s, which lead to long rebounds and runs out to transition. 13 turnovers is a lot for the Mavs, they need to win the margin by a landslide against Golden State. The Mavs also have to fight a little harder to secure the defensive rebound to finish stopped possessions, the Warriors crash pretty hard - and will continue to do so since the Mavs play at such a slow pace (lower risk for getting beat by fast breaks). The Mavs might want to consider pushing it more, to deter the crashing and keep Golden State from setting up their defense.
On offense, I think the Mavs will now be prepared for the multiple looks. They need to try to start their possessions as early as possible so that Luka can diagnose the scheme or, in case of transition, keep the Warriors from setting up their defense. Also, the Mavs need to hit their open and wide-open shots - this is most important. If the Warriors are going to have Draymond on Brunson and play off so that Draymond can roam, Brunson needs to the open 3s with that kind of space. Brunson is 5/25 from 3 since the Utah series - that badly needs to improve this series.
Last thought - I think I would ditch the Bertans minutes for now. The Mavs might also consider Green over antólogo a for the last rotation guy, but this spot probably needs minutes cut down too. Then, of course, we’ll need 30+ minutes from Maxi - no stupid fouls!
(05-20-2022, 01:05 PM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: [ -> ]Don’t think the Mavs go zone. Zone will give the Warriors more open 3s.
I don't know if I hate that idea though, especially if you can encourage certain shooters to take them.
(05-20-2022, 01:25 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if I hate that idea though, especially if you can encourage certain shooters to take them.
They might try it with Looney and Draymond both out there, but otherwise it feels like a bad idea.
I don't want to hear a lick about "shots not falling."
The Mavs are 100% pretenders until they figure out how to play D on the road in the playoffs.
(05-20-2022, 10:22 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to hear a lick about "shots not falling."
The Mavs are 100% pretenders until they figure out how to play D on the road in the playoffs.
LOL
This was as much of a must win game as you can have outside of a close out game. Started strong, but poor effort. My series prediction was wrong. Mavs just don’t have the physical strength.
(05-20-2022, 10:22 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to hear a lick about "shots not falling."
The Mavs are 100% pretenders until they figure out how to play D on the road in the playoffs.
I also don't want to hear shit about Luka being too selfish. He plays more selfishly like this in the 3rd and we might have a chance. He needs to read the moment better and know when to take over.
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