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Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived
#81
(02-09-2020, 06:49 PM)hakeemfan Wrote: 2006 we had Adrian Griffin and Marquis. 2011 DeSteve(shot 3s well some years but generally very inconsistent). Team can hide a below average offensive player.  Give me some wing defenders with size. We have 3 pt offense on the team.
Only issue is you have to let a 3 pt shooter go in order to add him. So probably either Lee or Bro.
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#82
https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1226962595611054081

https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1226962597800562688

https://twitter.com/DanFeldmanNBA/status...4859774976
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#83
Is there a deadline for buyouts as well or just a player is on the wire till a team decides to pick him up?
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#84
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1226989716152692736
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#85
https://twitter.com/TheMavsZone/status/1...7428764673
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#86
(02-10-2020, 05:08 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1226989716152692736

Re: Townsend: am I the only one who rolled his eyes at the fact that the Mavs can't even securely land the guy for whom they were the only team mentioned as a probable destination? This is like Kemba (writ much smaller of course). I'm telling y'all, we're very low on the buyout chain. I'm glad (pleasantly surprised, really) we might be an outside possibility for Harkless.

(02-10-2020, 12:49 PM)embellisher Wrote:
(02-08-2020, 04:10 PM)Reunion Mav Wrote: I think it is Lee on the way out the door. That is part of why we played him last night though it could have been to see if he was ready to help us for the playoff run before we let him go. This is Dallas being good to players and their agents again. It is a good thing that may actually work for us once in a while. From Lee's perspective, if we or someone else , with playoff hopes, picks him up and plays him, he would be getting what he wants.


There is a possibility that RC played JJ a lot to see if he could develop him into a serviceable rotation player, and that experiment has come to an end.

It's also possible that Lee didn't get much burn for several reasons. First, he was a known quantity. We knew he was a decent shooter and defender. Second, he wasn't in our future plans, and we hoped to move him for something else before the TDL. Third, before Luka went down, we had too many guards.

I'm wondering if now that we're starting to fall in the standings, and we've realized that JJ isn't going to become a rotation player (this year at least), that RC is working Lee into the rotation to have him ready for the playoffs, since we have to pay him anyway.

Maybe a bit grassy knoll for some, but it could be the case.

I don't think it's grassy knoll at all, but rather spot on.

JJ, last year and the beginning of this year, appeared to be a 10th man at the very least, with some upside beyond that. His play the past two months has been abominable on both sides of the court. I think Cuban and Donnie need to take a hard look at the JJ situation to determine if RC should be held responsible for "breaking" him, or if JJ was just that fragile to begin with.
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#87
(02-10-2020, 05:33 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheMavsZone/status/1...7428764673
 Why not both?

That could actually gives us a legit shot in the play-offs. Look how much losing Harkless/Aminu impacted Portland, roundabout a 15 games swing. Now MKG is not the shooter Aminu is, but defensively they´d be such a massive upgrade to Broekhoff/Lee.
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#88
(02-10-2020, 06:02 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote:
(02-10-2020, 05:33 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheMavsZone/status/1...7428764673
Why not both?

That could actually gives us a legit shot in the play-offs. Look how much losing Harkless/Aminu impacted Portland, roundabout a 15 games swing. Now MKG is not the shooter Aminu is, but defensively they´d be such a massive upgrade to Broekhoff/Lee.

Three wings with defensive capabilities... drool... not happening tho.

2019, wasn't it you who was arguing to keep JJ? My sense at this point is that 1) the Mavs need to show Luka that, although we don't have a pathway to contention this year, we're still serious about doing the best we can in the playoffs, and 2) I consider him to be not too off from Powell in undesirability in trade. His play has been baaaaaaaaaaaad. That's the rebuttal to keeping him as a future trade asset. I think that Bro and Lee have much greater on-court value this year.
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#89
I wouldn't mind both Harkless and MKG but who are you cutting? Candidates:

-Boban - Need his spot minutes as we are thin at the 4/5 + he has another year under contract. Not likely.
-Justin Jackson - He's been awful. Has another year on his contract that is expensive. Leaning towards not likely.
-Lee - He's played really well in his limited minutes. A pros pro but not part of the future. Expiring contract. Likely.
-JJ - He's not getting any burn. Maybe we are saving him for the playoffs. Expiring contract. Not likely but should we consider it?
-Bro - Has an elite NBA skill but seems deficient in just about every other area. Expiring contract. Likely.

Lee and Bro would be my guesses even if they are outplaying Jackson. Not sure MBT will do two waiver pickups, however. I'd guess we are getting one. I guess the question is, and this is what the Mavs pitch should be, who would you rather have in your long terms plans between the cut candidates and Harkless/MKG?
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#90
Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but Carlisle has had to call timeouts twice with WCS and Broekoff looking confused on the floor. I can excuse WCS but Bro has been here long enough to know the damn plays. Can't imagine Carlisle has a long leash for that kind of thing.

I like the kid's success story but if the Mavs add a player, Bro' is getting cut.

https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1226969855313809408
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#91
(02-10-2020, 02:23 PM)WillE Wrote:
(02-09-2020, 06:49 PM)hakeemfan Wrote: 2006 we had Adrian Griffin and Marquis. 2011 DeSteve(shot 3s well some years but generally very inconsistent). Team can hide a below average offensive player.  Give me some wing defenders with size. We have 3 pt offense on the team.
Only issue is you have to let a 3 pt shooter go in order to add him. So probably either Lee or Bro.

Has to be Lee.  If Crowder can still find a team in 2019 despite being a poor 3 pt shooter and worse 2 pt shooter than the guys I have mentioned, there is a place for MKG too. Just has to be the right situation.  Hopefully it’s here. If it doesn’t work, it’s a low risk move.
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#92
Dion Waiters got waived. From a pure talent perspective, he might be the most talented player available in the buyout market. Perhaps he needs a change of scenery? My concern is that the Heat are a good franchise culturally, so not sure if going to another culturally sound franchise would keep him anymore focused. If we got it to work though, he could definitely make our historic offense even better, if we whiff on picking up a defensive minded wing. Hes a big shot maker and has shown the ability to score on anyone

(02-10-2020, 07:08 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but Carlisle has had to call timeouts twice with WCS and Broekoff looking confused on the floor. I can excuse WCS but Bro has been here long enough to know the damn plays. Can't imagine Carlisle has a long leash for that kind of thing.

I like the kid's success story but if the Mavs add a player, Bro' is getting cut.

https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1226969855313809408
No, it will be Justin or Lee. Bro has shown improvement. Jackson has regressed and Lee is the last guy on the guard depth chart on a guard heavy team and doesn’t fit the timeline
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#93
https://twitter.com/chilangodos/status/1...9928891394
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#94
(02-10-2020, 08:58 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/chilangodos/status/1...9928891394
Great news. Hopefully he will blossom here.
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#95
(02-10-2020, 06:30 PM)cow Wrote: I wouldn't mind both Harkless and MKG but who are you cutting?  Candidates:

-Boban - Need his spot minutes as we are thin at the 4/5 + he has another year under contract.  Not likely.
-Justin Jackson - He's been awful.  Has another year on his contract that is expensive.  Leaning towards not likely.
-Lee - He's played really well in his limited minutes.  A pros pro but not part of the future.  Expiring contract.  Likely.
-JJ - He's not getting any burn.  Maybe we are saving him for the playoffs.  Expiring contract.  Not likely but should we consider it?
-Bro - Has an elite NBA skill but seems deficient in just about every other area.  Expiring contract.  Likely.

Lee and Bro would be my guesses even if they are outplaying Jackson.  Not sure MBT will do two waiver pickups, however.  I'd guess we are getting one.  I guess the question is, and this is what the Mavs pitch should be, who would you rather have in your long terms plans between the cut candidates and Harkless/MKG?
How about MKG & Dragan Bender?
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#96
Lee is terrible and he is awful defensively he can't stay in front of anyone.

Jackson as not been as bad as some say in here there as even been games lately he as helped win. But tbe problem is he is not a 4.

It is really time to move on from RC.
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#97
(02-10-2020, 10:15 PM)bartlettbear Wrote: Lee is terrible and he is awful defensively he can't stay in front of anyone.

Jackson as not been as bad as some say in here there as even been games lately he as helped win. But tbe problem is he is not a 4.

It is really time to move on from RC.

Jackson has been by far the worst regular rotation player and he isn´t any better than Lee on defense. Difference is that Lee at least can shoot. Broekhoff is better than both but people ignore the small sneaky things that he is doing on defense because he isn´t athletic.
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#98
Mavs FO is getting RC a great group of initials to glue to the bench in MKG and WCS.
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#99
Not sold on MKG. He was totally out the rotation in Charlotte. He's pretty good on D, but can't shoot a lick. Him and Williams became expendable due to Charlotte rebuilding. Nick Batum should be next, to get bought out.
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If only he wasn't complete trash on offense. But then again he wouldn't be barely be getting time on a bad Charlotte team and available on the buyout market if he had any offensive competency.

Still could be useful to us situationally but I don't think he should start here, don't want to harm our biggest strength (offense)
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