Poll: Will the Mavs make a trade before the deadline?
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#81
https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133
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#82
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Adams' pretty big.
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#83
Yeah limited number of big physical players that you actually want to give major minutes too.

Adams would be good, but he may have played his way out of the reach of assets the Mavs have available.
Randle could be ok, his 3pt % is pretty bad though. Maybe playing with Luka could improve it
Thad Young could be a decent addition, issue is he has a 3 year contract at $12.5mil
Aaron Baynes would be a great fit, he expires so wouldn't want to give up too much to add him.

Some combo of Lee, Jackson, Bro and 1-2 2nd rd picks for any of the above.
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#84
https://twitter.com/Logmey92/status/1206377327418126336

I also read Dennis S to Wolves is a possibility

Bring on the tank!  CP3 is not going anywhere due to money (old news).  I winder when he comes down with an “injury”
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#85
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#86
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Trading for Drummond at the draft would make sense.  Then he either opts out and signs with rights or he opts in and extends.  Schwartz is the agent.

Whether now or in June, it is hard to match salary without THJ.  I watched the show and Lowe didn’t think Dallas wanted to part with THJ.
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#87
Hard to know if THjs play is going to continue or if they should trade him while his value is high.

IF (a big if) the Heat want to go all in and trade for Chris Paul
How about a 3-way with Dallas, Thunder and Heat

Heat
Trade Olynyk, Derrick Jones and Dragic
Get Paul, Muscala and Patton

Thunder
Trade Adams, Muscala, Patton and Roberson
Get THJ, Lee, Olynyk, Jackson, Jones

Mavs
Trade THj, Lee and Jackson
Get Adams, Dragic and Roberson (TPE)

Thunder clear Paul's massive salary in 2021, and save over $10mil this season.
Heat add Paul to help with vet leadership.
Mavs add Adams to pair with KP and set some serious screens with Luka. Plus Dragic for a third scorer.
Leaves Mavs with a lot of PGs, so would maybe need another trade to send out Wright or Brunson.
Or Carlisle can play his 3 PG lineups, hell he play 3 PGs and Luka at the same time with Adams or KP

(12-15-2019, 10:09 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Trading for Drummond at the draft would make sense.  Then he either opts out and signs with rights or he opts in and extends.  Schwartz is the agent.

Whether now or in June, it is hard to match salary without THJ.  I watched the show and Lowe didn’t think Dallas wanted to part with THJ.

Once the season is done they can't trade Drummond unless he opted in to his player option for 20-21
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#88
(12-15-2019, 10:09 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Trading for Drummond at the draft would make sense. Then he either opts out and signs with rights or he opts in and extends. Schwartz is the agent.

Whether now or in June, it is hard to match salary without THJ. I watched the show and Lowe didn’t think Dallas wanted to part with THJ.

Of course they "don't want to part with THJ." That's called public negotiation. If they regard him as a can't-lose guy at his contract, they deserve the lost opportunities that come with that. That said, Drummond is not an opportunity, but rather a (hopefully) avoided accident.
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#89
I think someone like Andre Drummond is exactly the type of player that would come in and kill our momentum in a similar way to Rondo. I don't think of him much differently to a shot happy Deandre Jordan. Not remotely suited to this teams style of play. Bringing in a guy who can't shoot purely to have someone physical next to KP I don't think will have the results some people think it will. They still need to have certain attributes that fit in. Being zero threat from deep isn't one of them.
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#90
(12-15-2019, 10:12 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: DanSchwartzman
[quote pid='16136' dateline='1576465758']
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Trading for Drummond at the draft would make sense.  Then he either opts out and signs with rights or he opts in and extends.  Schwartz is the agent.

Whether now or in June, it is hard to match salary without THJ.  I watched the show and Lowe didn’t think Dallas wanted to part with THJ.

Once the season is done they can't trade Drummond unless he opted in to his player option for 20-21
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Sorry.  That is correct...just like the Jordan situation.  If he opts in, we can trade for him.  Or, he can opt out and we can S&T for him in July.
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#91
(12-15-2019, 11:12 PM)DanSchwartzman Wrote:
(12-15-2019, 10:12 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: DanSchwartzman
[quote pid='16136' dateline='1576465758']
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Trading for Drummond at the draft would make sense. Then he either opts out and signs with rights or he opts in and extends. Schwartz is the agent.

Whether now or in June, it is hard to match salary without THJ. I watched the show and Lowe didn’t think Dallas wanted to part with THJ.

Once the season is done they can't trade Drummond unless he opted in to his player option for 20-21

Sorry. That is correct...just like the Jordan situation. If he opts in, we can trade for him. Or, he can opt out and we can S&T for him in July.[/quote]

Or, we can be intelligent and avoid him altogether.

Generally love your contributions, Dan, but not this take.
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#92
Hmmm, I'm a bit indifferent about Drummond. I like his size and rebounding (esp OReb), as well as easy buckets. IMO he's probably a higher profile Favors, I just wonder about his work ethic. If he puts in the work (and after seeing his tweet to KP I am less worried about chemistry), and like KP doesn't worry too much about plays being called for him. If he just worries about playing winning basketball, I would love him on our team. That's a lot of if's and the biggest one being the work ethic. If he has that, I think the rest works itself out.
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#93
I'm curious about the "Mavs want a big" report. Sounds like a smoke screen to me.

Seems like a big wing defender is more needed than a big post presence. And whoever we get will probably be someone who can shoot the 3.
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#94
(12-15-2019, 11:00 PM)Dundalis Wrote: I think someone like Andre Drummond is exactly the type of player that would come in and kill our momentum in a similar way to Rondo. I don't think of him much differently to a shot happy Deandre Jordan. Not remotely suited to this teams style of play. Bringing in a guy who can't shoot purely to have someone physical next to KP I don't think will have the results some people think it will. They still need to have certain attributes that fit in. Being zero threat from deep isn't one of them.
I tend to agree with this. The foundation of the Mavericks' offense is floor spacing, so, realistically, every player has to be able to shoot threes at at least a half-decent rate. It seems that either Drummond would have to learn to shoot threes, or Carlisle would have to re-design the offense to incorporate him as a second option. Don't really see it. However, I don't follow this player closely, so it is possible I am missing something.
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#95
(12-15-2019, 08:17 PM)Tyler Wrote: https://twitter.com/SamGuertler/status/1...4178096133

Now this is incredibly interesting. It makes sense.

KP is playing like a wing right now, and the Mavs are essentially running 4 out with 1 of Powell or Kleber as a rim roller with KP in the game. Thats why we never see Powell+Boban on the court together at any moment. 

Steven Adams is in my opinion one of the best centers in the league and would fit in like a glove here. He is without a doubt one of the best screen setters in the league, which as we saw when Boban comes in is a massive help to free Luka to drive. It would push Powell to the bench, and bring back the classic Maxi/Powell bench duo that was quite effective last year. Another underrated skill of Adams is his ability to box out. Thats what gave Westbrook his triple doubles every night. Having a guy like Adams to go up against the Jokics/Harrells/Embiids/AD's etc. would be invaluable. Plus, Adams is a bonafide tough guy. He takes no crap, and isn't afraid to knock people around. He's exactly what we need. 

https://tradenba.com/trades/7j49QpRef

In this trade the Mavs send out Brunson, DFS, Jackson, and Lee, and get back RoCo and Adams.

Minny gets CP3, DFS and Jackson to replace RoCo. Thunder get Teague, Dieng, Lee, and Brunson, along with draft compensation. Each team walks away with a clear upgrade/something they want. Minnesota gets off of Teague, and gets a clear PG upgrade with CP3. They replace RoCo, who's been underperforming with 2 SF's, one that can defend, and another that can shoot. They also get off of Diengs money.

Thunder get WAYYY below the tax line and off of Cp3's money. Along with a good prospect in Brunson. Mavs get to consolidate their talent, and get 2 clear cut starters. Starting lineup looks like Luka/THJ/RoCo/KP/Adams. Bench rotation is Wright/Curry/---/Maxi/Powell with JJ and Boban playing spot minutes.

Quick authors note: After writing all this up and about to hit post, I realized that the Mavs actually get thinner at SF if they do this trade. A quick modification of adding Roby and Broekhoff instead of Jackson remedies that. Where Roby goes to OKC, and Bro goes to Minny. The main pillars of the trade remains intact, where MIN gets their PG upgrade and off of Dieng's contract, OKC gets off of CP3, under the tax line, and young prospects/draft capital, Dallas gets 2 starters, so I doubt it'd hypothetically change much. It's a complicated trade, but I can see it happening.

https://tradenba.com/trades/ZpRIe_J4c
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#96
(12-15-2019, 08:38 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: Randle could be ok, his 3pt % is pretty bad though. Maybe playing with Luka could improve it

It´s finally happening. Big Grin

Good to hear Minnesota is looking for a PG.
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#97
Put me in the "Hard no" camp when it comes to Drummond 
Would remind me of the Rondo trade. Talented guy with a bad attitude who can't shoot that will no-doubt clash with Rick.
I don't throw around many hard no's
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#98
https://twitter.com/DimeUPROXX/status/12...7351064576
Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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#99
(12-16-2019, 01:30 AM)Mavs2019 Wrote: Good to hear Minnesota is looking for a PG.

They actually mentioned Lowry positively as a possibility for Minnesota if Toronto decides to be a seller (also mentioned Orlando and Miami for Lowry).  They do not think GSW will be making outgoing calls to trade Russell at the TDL.  Easier to get value in the summer when they know what pick they have as they could possibly package Russell and a top pick for a true star.

Other mentions included Morris to the Clippers, Boston needing a big (but not wanting to trade Smart), Philly needing a shooter at < $10mm (Scott and Zhaire could be packaged).  They thought NO might be sellers (Holiday and Reddick as possibilities).  

The segment on Dallas was pretty much just an observation.  Woj thinks they need a big.  Part of the thinking is we've always had one (Chandler, pursuit of Howard).  They had talked earlier in the show about Drummond and Detroit needing to make a decision, so he came up again.  Lowe observed that they may not want to trade Hardaway (part of the presumed cost to make the salaries match).
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(12-16-2019, 08:26 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: The segment on Dallas was pretty much just an observation.  Woj thinks they need a big.  Part of the thinking is we've always had one (Chandler, pursuit of Howard).  They had talked earlier in the show about Drummond and Detroit needing to make a decision, so he came up again.  Lowe observed that they may not want to trade Hardaway (part of the presumed cost to make the salaries match).


So basically they don't know anything :-) Mavs biggest need is a 3-D wing and secondary facilitator on offense. This means a type of player that is very expensive. We are just fine under the basket. We are a solid rebounding team and we are not exactly being killed by opposing bigs. If anything with regards to the bigs, we could use a guy who would be able to post up a bit, but still being able to guard on perimeter. I guess it would be cheaper if Luka showed some tricks to Powell and KP during summer :-)

THJ is excellent as long as he limits himself to catch and shoot. He is inefficient at creating - so he can't be the 6th man scoring punch from the bench nor secondary facilitator. But he is excellent catch and shoot guy who needs very very little time and space to catch and shoot. I think Curry needs much more time and space, which is why he mostly doesn't shoot a lot.
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