(12-22-2022, 09:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I am saying I love stats until they are used in a way that goes against what they are saying. Wood was one man on a roster of 15 men.
In the last 4 seasons (including this one) Wood has had an on/off rating of about +5.0, meaning 1 his teams were significantly better when he played than when he didn't, and 2 on his Detroit team, that team was actually a winning team when he played (!!!), this is a team that was 20-46.
So no, the stats do NOT say Wood is a "losing" player at all.
"I love stats until they are used in a way that goes against what they are saying." -- LOL how ironic.
You claim that DET was a "winning team" when Wood played based on a positive on/off number, when that's not what that stat would be saying at all. Goodness.
In item 1 on off is correctly used. Yes the stat would say Wood PLUS his 5 rotation mates were somewhat better than the players they replaced. IE, item 1. They may have been good or bad - but their (or his) replacements were worse. (As for which of the 5 players in Wood's group was the cause, or which of the 5 players in the other group was the negative, it doesn't tell that.)
But re item 2, no this number doesn't say they, as a group, were delivering a winning stint at all against the other team. Ever. Just that Wood's bad/good/whatever group of Pistons did better than their other group.