2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived

[Jason Terry]

I’d take both gallo and bogi in a collins deal. They’d both fit here if Atlanta wants to hit the reset button. Wouldn’t be hard to salary match either

[Thukydides]

Has he been a bust, or has he just not been able to play due to injury? 

My counter to that would be that Gallo has been worse, imo, and I believe he has been available more often this season. PLUS, he has some situational overlap with Porzingis. I suppose you could make the argument that they'd need Gallo to remain in the mix as a third big...just haven't seen any indication that they're displeased with the Bogdanovic singing - only disappointment that they haven't really seen what he'll bring on the court yet.

I 100% agree with this. The Hawks would be crazy to give up on Bogdanovic just yet.

[StepBackJay]

Warriors really want to contend for a title, they're better off waiting for this summer and packaging the Wolves pick and Wiseman for a true star like Beal and making a run next year when Klay comes back.   There's not 1 move away from contending with the Lakers with any of the names thrown out there at this trade deadline (including KP).

I don't think Washington wants to sell Beal right now.

[ItsGoTime]

just haven't seen any indication that they're displeased with the Bogdanovic singing

Not gonna state the obvious in this sentence, just gonna leave it at this in all it's splendor!

[HanspardShowerVoice]

I don't think Washington wants to sell Beal right now.

I don't think so either, but I think that Minnesota Pick is going to become awfully alluring this summer as the draft approaches and these front offices start falling in love with these prospects.  

But also like, even if it's not Beal, some franchise is going to fall short of the playoffs and some franchise is going to exit early in the playoffs and be really disappointed and rethink their organizational direction, so if you're the Warriors and you're big game hunting with Wiseman and/or the TWolves pick as ammo there's going to be more possible targets in the summer than there is at the trade deadline where the 10th seed can get into the playoffs and every winning team is convinced they have an extended playoff run in them if things fall right.

[KillerLeft]

Not gonna state the obvious in this sentence, just gonna leave it at this in all it's splendor!

Maybe you should state the obvious, because I confess that whatever point you’re making is completely lost on me.

[ItsGoTime]

Maybe you should state the obvious, because I confess that whatever point you’re making is completely lost on me.

Alright, I think they liked Bog's singing before coming there, but maybe it's too much autotune for a long term relationship?

[cow]

If Mavs are giving up KP they are getting WCJ and Markkanen and OPJ.

Not sold on either, not sure I'd want both, especially if it removes draft compensation from the deal.

[KillerLeft]

Ah, now I get it. Typo humor.

[ClutchDirk]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2935...e-deadline

[Hypermav]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2935...e-deadline

[StepBackJay]

Warriors really want to contend for a title, they're better off waiting for this summer and packaging the Wolves pick and Wiseman for a true star like Beal and making a run next year when Klay comes back.   There's not 1 move away from contending with the Lakers with any of the names thrown out there at this trade deadline (including KP).

Well right they know that they are just starting their shopping early in case someone becomes available.

[StepBackJay]

Bogdan has been a total bust for ATL so far. I think they regret that move big time. So I am suggesting it because I think ATL would prefer it.

He's only played 11 games bc he was hurt I think its a little bit early to say he's a bust.

[StepBackJay]

I don't think so either, but I think that Minnesota Pick is going to become awfully alluring this summer as the draft approaches and these front offices start falling in love with these prospects.  

But also like, even if it's not Beal, some franchise is going to fall short of the playoffs and some franchise is going to exit early in the playoffs and be really disappointed and rethink their organizational direction, so if you're the Warriors and you're big game hunting with Wiseman and/or the TWolves pick as ammo there's going to be more possible targets in the summer than there is at the trade deadline where the 10th seed can get into the playoffs and every winning team is convinced they have an extended playoff run in them if things fall right.

Give me a name? A lot of the guys that were unhappy or otherwise on the move have arrived at their destination. There are some less sexy names like Vucevic, Gordon, not guys you would give up that pick for though I don't think.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

He's only played 11 games bc he was hurt I think its a little bit early to say he's a bust.

Very early.  Gotta give players time coming off injuries.

[Kammrath]

He's only played 11 games bc he was hurt I think its a little bit early to say he's a bust.

It is not too early to say he has been a bust "so far." He has played in 11 of 30+ games and posted a 9.9 PER while shooting 38%. I guarantee if the Mavs were paying him $18M/yr for the next four years and that had happened people would be PISSED.

[cow]

Give me a name? A lot of the guys that were unhappy or otherwise on the move have arrived at their destination. There are some less sexy names like Vucevic, Gordon, not guys you would give up that pick for though I don't think.

The NBA moves fast.  Happy today doesn't mean someone is happy tomorrow.  By all indications, Beal wants to be a Wizard for life but circumstances change (goals, coaching, GM, ownership).   I also think GSW is good enough at evaluating talent that they could just make the pick and draft the talent and trade them at a later time so this summer isn't necessarily the deadline.  I could see someone like Booker asking out of Phoenix sooner than later if the Suns falter in the playoffs.  Maybe Giannis gets fed up of not getting over the hump and looks at the daunting task of getting past KD/Kyrie/Harden.  KAT and LaVine are names to keep an eye on.

[HanspardShowerVoice]

Give me a name? A lot of the guys that were unhappy or otherwise on the move have arrived at their destination. There are some less sexy names like Vucevic, Gordon, not guys you would give up that pick for though I don't think.

Let's take New Orleans.  They have two legit young All Stars caliber talents, but they're 11th in the West because these two guys also largely play the same position and have the same skillsets and don't complement each other well.   So in the offseason they could decide they're ready to hand the keys of the franchise over to Zion and make hm the focal point of the franchise and look to ship Ingram for young complementary building blocks to build around Zion for the next 10 years.   If I'm the Warriors I'd much rather have Ingram than KP (in fact Ingram would be a pretty nice Durant lite with their core 3).   If I'm New Orleans, a young nucleus of  Zion + Wiseman + picks/pick swaps + dumping a bad contract (Bledsoe).  If I'm New Orleans, I might not even mind so much taking Wiggins in the trade if it netted more picks in the deal (especially if I could leverage it for the TWolves pick).   They need more 3D wings to put around Zion, and it's not like they're a free agent destination that would make them huge players in free agency in the next couple of years.

[Mavs2021]

It is not too early to say he has been a bust "so far." He has played in 11 of 30+ games and posted a 9.9 PER while shooting 38%. I guarantee if the Mavs were paying him $18M/yr for the next four years and that had happened people would be PISSED.

What if they paid him 30M/year for next four years.

[StepBackJay]

It is not too early to say he has been a bust "so far." He has played in 11 of 30+ games and posted a 9.9 PER while shooting 38%. I guarantee if the Mavs were paying him $18M/yr for the next four years and that had happened people would be PISSED.

Its definitely too early