DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know."

[ClutchDirk]

https://www.nba.com/stats/impact/advance...732~202699&VsLineupIDs=203954&TeamID=1610612755&VsTeamID=1610612755

76ers stats while A. Horford, B. Simmons, T. Harris are ON COURT


76ers stats while A. Horford, B. Simmons, T. Harris are ON COURT

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Simmons, Hrs stats while A. Hor immons, T. Harris are ON COURT

[aguiar95]

Kevin Pelton's ESPN Insider piece on Morey impact on decision making in Philly is linked below.  He doesn't think Morey will trade Simmons or Embiid in the near term.  Here is what he said about the guy most likely to go...Harris:

Tweaks in short term, bold changes in long term

From a big-picture perspective, I'm not sure Morey's arrival will dramatically change Philadelphia's game plan. For now, the 76ers will most likely look to maximize the Embiid-Simmons duo with their new coach -- recently hired Doc Rivers -- and different pieces around them.

  
Morey would probably be more inclined to trade starting forward Tobias Harris, who re-signed on a five-year, $180 million deal last summer after the Sixers gave up a lavish package to acquire him from the LA Clippers before the 2019 trade deadline. However, Harris' disappointing 2019-20 campaign and big contract will make it difficult to move him for value. The same is true of Al Horford, Philadelphia's big-ticket addition in the summer of 2019.

Beyond that, the 76ers' short-term moves are largely telegraphed. They'll surely look to move Mike Scott and Zhaire Smith to cut their luxury-tax bill, which might give Morey the ability to go shopping with the team's taxpayer midlevel exception.


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...rey-charge

From a money perspective I agree, but from the Thybulle bubble videos, Harris felt like their veteran leader. He was the one speaking about BLM and their position/mentality going forward and even was the guy that talked during TOs in the Celtics series. Same mold as DP here (bad contract, excellent culture guy). Not sure he would go there. To me the odd man out in Philly is Horford. Horford/Smith/21/Future protected 1st for Hield is their move I think.

[DanSchwartzgan]

He had Jevon Carter (a player I like here) at $5.3mm and mentions Dallas would be a good situation for his skill set.

He actually doesn't say that last part  He mentiones Dallas next to Dragic, Burke and Barea

My bad.  I was thinking of what he said about Dragic while writing about Carter.  Thanks for catching that.

[ClutchDirk]

Kevin Pelton's ESPN Insider piece on Morey impact on decision making in Philly is linked below.  He doesn't think Morey will trade Simmons or Embiid in the near term.  Here is what he said about the guy most likely to go...Harris:

Tweaks in short term, bold changes in long term

From a big-picture perspective, I'm not sure Morey's arrival will dramatically change Philadelphia's game plan. For now, the 76ers will most likely look to maximize the Embiid-Simmons duo with their new coach -- recently hired Doc Rivers -- and different pieces around them.

  
Morey would probably be more inclined to trade starting forward Tobias Harris, who re-signed on a five-year, $180 million deal last summer after the Sixers gave up a lavish package to acquire him from the LA Clippers before the 2019 trade deadline. However, Harris' disappointing 2019-20 campaign and big contract will make it difficult to move him for value. The same is true of Al Horford, Philadelphia's big-ticket addition in the summer of 2019.

Beyond that, the 76ers' short-term moves are largely telegraphed. They'll surely look to move Mike Scott and Zhaire Smith to cut their luxury-tax bill, which might give Morey the ability to go shopping with the team's taxpayer midlevel exception.


https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...rey-charge

From a money perspective I agree, but from the Thybulle bubble videos, Harris felt like their veteran leader. He was the one speaking about BLM and their position/mentality going forward and even was the guy that talked during TOs in the Celtics series. Same mold as DP here (bad contract, excellent culture guy). Not sure he would go there. To me the odd man out in Philly is Horford. Horford/Smith/21/Future protected 1st for Hield is their move I think.

Morey will see that the main fit issue is Embiid...

[Hypermav]

Trey Burke $7,131,892

I am not sure what I thought the Mavs could give him but that, seems high.

[Kammrath]

John Hollinger at The Athletic has a series out this week on Free Agents.  He's combining PIPM, Raptor and PER on a weighted multi-year basis to come up with a single rating and then applying 20/21 dollars to that rating.  Luka as a free agent, for instance, would be the second most valuable player in the league and worth a contract of $55 million per (the metric is age based).  Gallinari is worth $19mm (he was named in the piece explaining the metric).  Hollinger thinks there will be a larger than normal number of one year deals this time around.

Today he started with PG's.  VanVleet is at the top of a thin class at $22mm.  Dragic is a hair above MLE at $11.5mm.  One of the bigger surprises (to me) was Burke at $7mm one spot ahead of Reggie Jackson at $6.4mm.  He had Jevon Carter (a player I like here) at $5.3mm and mentions Dallas would be a good situation for his skill set.  Barea and Yogi are down in the $3mm range.  I assume Dunn will be in tomorow's piece on SG's.

Here is what he wrote about Burke:

Tier 4: Less than MLE, more than minimum

Trey Burke $7,131,892

A replacement player in Dallas after Philadelphia inexplicably cut him, Burke isn’t for everybody — he’s small, he’s going to pound the ball a bit, and he’ll take a lot of long 2s. (This story comes up a lot in this free-agent guard market).

Nonetheless, he’s a good choice for a second unit that has limited shot creation, or as a third point guard to step up in case of injury. Burke’s 42.7 percent 3-point shooting last season is likely a fluke, as it’s a major outlier from the rest of his career, but the other numbers are not. He scores 23.7 points per 100 for his career with a 14.1 PER, and although he’s small he’s not a horrific defender. There’s a place for him in a rotation someplace.


https://theathletic.com/2166277/2020/11/...thin-herd/

Thanks for sharing this!

Please keep bringing highlights here please. I am super intrigued about balancing those three advanced stats and seeing the outcomes.

[Mike lorenzo]

If we are willing to eat an Albatros contract ... how about Cp3 ...? his contract is shorter than Harris ... Powell + THJ + Lee (Signature / Change) + Delon + Maxi for CP3 + Gallinari

[Kammrath]

CP3

I like CP3 the player, but I personally do not want CP3 the alpha locker room presence anywhere near Luka's lockerroom.

[Mavs2019]

John Hollinger at The Athletic has a series out this week on Free Agents.

Here is what he wrote about Burke:

Tier 4: Less than MLE, more than minimum

Trey Burke $7,131,892

That is the kind of evaluation that got him fired from the Grizzlies job. Probably wanted to give Delon Wright an extension, too. 

To commit $7M to Burke, in a pre-arranged deal before the official start of free agency, just to find out that all the best available FAs sign one year MLE deals would be so Mavericks. Burke´s ceiling is the room exception.

That being said I´m exhausted. They moved the draft back too far.

[Kammrath]

[b]1. Will the Nuggets re-sign [b]Jerami Grant?
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Grant’s time in Denver got off to a shaky start in 2019/20. In their 42 games through January 19, the Nuggets had a -5.6 net rating when Grant was on the court and a +14.0 rating when he sat, one of the most significant discrepancies in the league.

That gap wasn’t all Grant’s fault, of course — he was still scoring in the double digits and knocking down his threes at a 36.4% clip during that time. But he was inconsistent on the defensive end, as it took some time for Denver to figure out how to make the most of his versatility and pair him with the right teammates.

After January 19, the Nuggets’ net rating for the rest of the regular season was five points better when Grant was on the court. And he was a key contributor in the postseason, starting 16 of Denver’s 19 playoff games and averaging 34.4 minutes per contest against the Jazz, Clippers, and Lakers. The Nuggets couldn’t do much in the Western Finals against the Lakers, but Grant was one of the few bright spots — he averaged 21.0 PPG on 47.6% in the team’s final three games of the season.

While Grant’s first year in Denver wasn’t perfect, he had become one of the team’s most important role players by season’s end and showed why the club surrendered a first-round pick for him last July. The Nuggets didn’t give up that first-rounder expecting Grant to be a one-year rental, so there’s no reason to think the organization won’t make every effort to re-sign him this fall.

Grant will be an unrestricted free agent, which means he’s free to sign elsewhere if he doesn’t want to return to Denver. But unless the Nuggets are willing to work out a sign-and-trade deal, the 26-year-old’s best opportunity to play for a contender in 2020/21 will probably be with his current club. Using his Bird rights, the Nuggets can offer Grant a starting salary well above the mid-level exception, outbidding most rival suitors.

That doesn’t mean Grant won’t have other options, especially if he’s willing to join a lottery team. The Pistons and Hawks are expected to have interest and have the cap room necessary to put pressure on Denver. The Suns and Heat have also been linked to Grant, though both of those clubs would need to jettison some of their own free agents to create enough cap space for a run at the Nuggets forward, which could complicate matters. The Mavericks are also said to have interest in Grant, but they project to be over the cap, which could compromise their ability to put a competitive offer on the table.

It may ultimately come down to price. Bobby Marks of ESPN projects a $12-14MM starting salary for Grant, while Mike Singer of The Denver Post has estimated the forward could command upwards of $14-16MM per year. An offer in the four-year, $60MM range seems about right for Grant and the Nuggets. If another team is willing to significantly outbid that offer, Denver will face a difficult decision.

[StepBackJay]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

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My likely Mavs targets for a Wright trade are Dipo, Schroder and Danny Green.

[KillerLeft]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

[Hypermav]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

So you are finally out on Harris?

[ItsGoTime]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

So you are finally out on Harris?

BUT OPJ STILL HAS A CHANCE!

[Scott41theMavs]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

You're both probably right. So Mavs, and so bad. Green is terrible, I have a sense that the Mavs are out on Dipo, and Schroder comes with a lot of baggage off the court and in the locker room that the Mavs will want to avoid (and have dynamically avoided in the past, it was so bad).

I'd rather have another year of Wright than see our last FRS before Luka's extension completely flushed down the toilet on the rotting corpse of Danny Green. Just put me out of my misery if that happens. Edit: I still haven't stated it strongly enough - ***as important as it is to get out from under Wright's contract, since Green probably gets rotation minutes if he comes here, and because he is so abominably bad at this stage of his career that he dynamically costs us wins in 2020-21, I would be angry if the Mavs traded Wright for Green straight up, much less Wright and 31, far less Wright and 18***. Vomit, vomit, vomit. I'd rather we paid Courtney Lee a big one year deal and gave him rotation minutes than acquiring Green. So terrible.

[Mavsfan12]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

So you are finally out on Harris?

BUT OPJ STILL HAS A CHANCE!

Yes please.  I am so on the OPJ bandwagon!  (If he's healthy).  Would be absolutely perfect fit here at SF.

[KillerLeft]

@"Scott41theMavs" I don't know if it makes you feel better, but my prediction for their top target is still Hayward.

[Mavsfan12]

I think Mavs are going to split the MLE so maybe 4-5 mil to Burke and then another couple above-vet min guys that could fill a role. The big move will be draft night moving Wright + a pick for someone. That move will be the "win now" type of move for the summer. We may or may not draft a guy and then MLE will shore up a couple holes and MBT will call it a day.

I concur. This, or something very similar, is still the mostly likely scenario, imo.

You're both probably right. So Mavs, and so bad. Green is terrible, I have a sense that the Mavs are out on Dipo, and Schroder comes with a lot of baggage off the court and in the locker room that the Mavs will want to avoid (and have dynamically avoided in the past, it was so bad).

I'd rather have another year of Wright than see our last FRS before Luka's extension completely flushed down the toilet on the rotting corpse of Danny Green. Just put me out of my misery if that happens. Edit: I still haven't stated it strongly enough - ***as important as it is to get out from under Wright's contract, since Green probably gets rotation minutes if he comes here, and because he is so abominably bad at this stage of his career that he dynamically costs us wins in 2020-21, I would be angry if the Mavs traded Wright for Green straight up, much less Wright and 31, far less Wright and 18***. Vomit, vomit, vomit. I'd rather we paid Courtney Lee a big one year deal and gave him rotation minutes than acquiring Green. So terrible.

Hard pass on Green.  Maybe as a salary dump for Powell/Wright.  Haha.  That would be enough for me to pull that trigger.  SOOOO much future salary erased.  Of course, that would get spit back at us.  But I would do it.

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@"Scott41theMavs" I don't know if it makes you feel better, but my prediction for their top target is still Hayward.

On the expiring?  Or on a SnT?

[KillerLeft]

On the expiring?  Or on a SnT?

Sign and trade seems the most plausible to me.

[Mavsfan12]

On the expiring?  Or on a SnT?

Sign and trade seems the most plausible to me.

I see...  hmmm.  I don't see Hayward leaving enough salary on the table this season to take the kind of salary that I think the mavs would want him to take to make it happen.  They aren't going to finish off the cap situation with a long term Gordon Hayward contract. 

Not going to lie, I could root for him, but I would be disappointed.