DAL OFFSEASON: Trade & FA | Mavs "mostly done...but you never know."

[omahen]

One question. When trading on draft day, which salary is taken into calculation (2019 one or 2020 one?) and which salary cap space (2019 or 2020)?

For example. The "insider" guys on Hawks forum speculate LAC want to trade PG for #1 pick and CP3. They continue to speculate how Atlanta could buy both and get PG. But, I think that would actually be quite easy for Minnesota to do in a three team deal.

Min: PG
LAC: CP3, #1
OKC: Johnson, Turner SnT for remaining salary, #17 (or whatever compensation OKC wants).

[jesusshuttlesworth82]

Personally someone that I would love to pair with Luka in the long run is Mikal Bridges. Maxi + Brunson + # 18..not sure if that's enough ..

Would be nice.  There's no way Phoenix is trading him.

[SamStetz]

In a podcast, Hollinger just suggested:

Orlandon sends Aminu and a 2nd rounder to Dallas for Delon Wright.

Both he and Duncan ultimately decided that Dallas wouldn't do the deal (because 2021) but I thought it was an interesting glimpse into Wright's trade value. Aminu isn't really at a value high point these days.

I think I’d still do it...Aminu played great here and if you were able to build up his value, he’d be easy to flip. Dallas needs wing players and Aminu would provided that defensive wing presence. 

With Orlando’s players, I’d still look for deals for Gordon, JI, and Bamba before Aminu

[DanSchwartzgan]

One question. When trading on draft day, which salary is taken into calculation (2019 one or 2020 one?) and which salary cap space (2019 or 2020)?

For example. The "insider" guys on Hawks forum speculate LAC want to trade PG for #1 pick and CP3. They continue to speculate how Atlanta could buy both and get PG. But, I think that would actually be quite easy for Minnesota to do in a three team deal.

Min: PG
LAC: CP3, #1
OKC: Johnson, Turner SnT for remaining salary, #17 (or whatever compensation OKC wants).

Omahen:  I saw this the other day and thought I answered.  Who knows for sure.  I’ve been struggling to keep up lately.  I’ve even noticed where I started a post a couple of times and 12 hours later notice I never hit the button to post it.

At the draft it is 2019 salary.  The 2020 number starts after the moratorium.  So, if the trade is completed on draft night, it is the old number.  It certainly could be announced on draft night and deferred until after the moratorium.

[omahen]

At the draft it is 2019 salary.  The 2020 number starts after the moratorium.  So, if the trade is completed on draft night, it is the old number.  It certainly could be announced on draft night and deferred until after the moratorium.

Thanks. I don't think you answered, or I overlooked. Doesn't matter, thanks again. This basically means (for example), Buddy Hield salary on draft night is 4,8 mil. Interesting.

[DanSchwartzgan]

At the draft it is 2019 salary.  The 2020 number starts after the moratorium.  So, if the trade is completed on draft night, it is the old number.  It certainly could be announced on draft night and deferred until after the moratorium.

Thanks. I don't think you answered, or I overlooked. Doesn't matter, thanks again. This basically means (for example), Buddy Hield salary on draft night is 4,8 mil. Interesting.

So, that last part isn’t exactly true.  Hield is a Poison Pill player for trade purposes.  You can look it up in the Coon FAQ, but he is basically untradable on draft night to a team that doesn’t have a bunch of 2019 cap room.  A deal has to satisfy the rules regarding both the old number and new number.  You can do a Poison Pill deal if the spread between old and new is narrow, but the chasm is wide with Hield.

[Kammrath]

K.C. Johnson of NBC Sports Chicago ranks the [b]Bulls[/b] who are least likely to return next season. He puts guard [b]Shaquille Harrison[/b] at the top of the list, believing the potential restricted free agent would be “redundant” if Chicago makes a qualifying offer to [b]Kris Dunn[/b].

• To help gauge the value of [b]Joe Harris[/b]‘ next contract, Alex Schiffer of the Athletic looks at recent deals signed by sharpshooters throughout the league. He notes that Harris will be in a similar situation as [b]J.J. Redick[/b], [b]Danny Green[/b], [b]Otto Porter[/b], [b]Davis Bertans[/b] and [b]Joe Ingles[/b].
  

[swaggerbox]

Rudy Gobert has started following Mark Cuban. Could be something?

[omahen]

Rudy Gobert has started following Mark Cuban. Could be something?

We already have our center

[Hypermav]

So Gobert is an expiring like Drummond and we could pretty much use him the same way as the Drummond scenario, but have a much better player.  Albeit more expensive to obtain.  

Maybe Porzingis for Giannis and resign Gobert?

 So many permutations but I would rather keep KP if at all possible in a Giannis acquisition.

[chaparral]

Rudy Gobert has started following Mark Cuban. Could be something?

That's interesting.  Gobert was just rated by the Athletic as a top 16 player.  He is a UFA next year in 21, which fits our plans.  He will make 25.7 mil this next season.  So we would probably have to send Wright, Kleber and opt-in WCS w/18 and 31.  Would the Jazz sent back the 23rd pick w/Gobert?  Mavs probably have to include a future 1st.  Porzingis is coming off off knee surgery and will be on time management.  KP can also play some at the PF spot to get min. 

This would be a HIBW type of move I hope the MBT would look at doing.  It opens up so many options in 2021.

[DanSchwartzgan]

I need a new acronym/catch phase.  Plan (a little bit of) Powder.  I get the sentiment about KP being a center.  But it doesn’t have to be 100% of the time.  And, might it preserve KP and lengthen his career to play less at center?

Gobert is certainly a star.  In fact, The Athletic ranked him about 10 spots higher than KP in its rankings this week.  Dallas has worked with Gobert’s agent in the past.  He also represents Roddy B, DJ Mbenga and Mahinmi.  He also represents Frank N.

[Tyler]

Rudy Gobert has started following Mark Cuban. Could be something?

Personally I'm not convinced that the locker room drama in Utah is miraculously healed. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Gobert is moved. I also wonder if the Jazz are one of those teams that are in a tighter financial situation than people realize. 

I know KP is our center. But seriously -- the interior defense with KP and Gobert would be something else, and they're different enough offensively that I think it would work just fine.

[omahen]

know KP is our center. But seriously -- the interior defense with KP and Gobert would be something else, and they're different enough offensively that I think it would work just fine.

Interior defense and offense would be great. But we would be very exposed on perimeter defense, because both KP and Gobert are bad at it. Plus I don't think we have the assets to trade for him anyway. This is not a "question mark Dipo", this is multiple defensive MVP and teams will be fighting hard for him.

[Hypermav]

Plan (a little bit of) Powder

Dandruff?   Sorry it just popped into my head

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I bet Ainge would spend his ample resources for Gobert.

[Tyler]

Interior defense and offense would be great. But we would be very exposed on perimeter defense, because both KP and Gobert are bad at it.

I do realize the league is moving more and more towards perimeter play. I just think it's shortsighted to pass up a defensive MVP and 3rd star because of fear of how you'd fill in other gaps. Personally I'd take my chances and focus on how to use a uniquely dominant frontcourt to our advantage.

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I bet Ainge would spend his ample resources for Gobert.

I would think so, too. The complicating factor is Gobert's impending free agency, as Ainge isn't the type to blow assets on a rental. I wonder if Gobert has a preferred long-term destination.

[cow]

Rudy Gobert has started following Mark Cuban. Could be something?

That's interesting.  Gobert was just rated by the Athletic as a top 16 player.  He is a UFA next year in 21, which fits our plans.  He will make 25.7 mil this next season.  So we would probably have to send Wright, Kleber and opt-in WCS w/18 and 31.  Would the Jazz sent back the 23rd pick w/Gobert?  Mavs probably have to include a future 1st.  Porzingis is coming off off knee surgery and will be on time management.  KP can also play some at the PF spot to get min. 

This would be a HIBW type of move I hope the MBT would look at doing.  It opens up so many options in 2021.

Would the send something back?  No.  Would the accept that offer in the first place?  Doubtful.  Even if Rudy said, "I'll only resign with Dallas so no one else trade for me.", I'm sure some other team can come up with expiring salary matches and drat picks to exceed Dallas offer and take the risk of retaining Gobert like Toronto did with KL.  

Heck, in a strange turn of events, I bet Hayward for Gobert works and Boston could pile on the picks.

[DanSchwartzgan]

What was the story about eating salary to get a star.

Conley = Salary
Gobert = Star

[cow]

What was the story about eating salary to get a star.

Conley = Salary
Gobert = Star

Is Utah really that desperate to get off of Conley's last year of 34M?  I guess if Gobert has indicated that he will not resign...

How much of the 60M incoming do you need to match?

Trade NBA says:  THJ, Maxi, Seth, Wright works (also works if you included Powell).  How many future first do we give up?

No way this happens.  haha

[omahen]

I just think it's shortsighted to pass up a defensive MVP and 3rd star because of fear of how you'd fill in other gaps.

This defensive MVP basically didn't get past first round in the playoffs