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(07-03-2026, 03:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I just can't even imagine there isn't a trade coming, at this point. I know it's counterintuitive to think that way as time goes by, but each and every domino that has fallen makes this seem more likely to me.
Naji+Klay for Jrue. Clears the roster spot for Tarik, who replaces a bit of both outgoing.
Mavs would have ~$10m to offer Tarik year 1. Not saying that’s what it would take, just what they’d have available.
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07-03-2026, 03:50 PM
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(07-03-2026, 03:48 PM)Smitty Wrote: Naji+Klay for Jrue. Clears the roster spot for Tarik, who replaces a bit of both outgoing. 
Mavs would have ~$10m to offer Tarik year 1. Not saying that’s what it would take, just what they’d have available.
It's certainly possible. Based on the current trend, my instincts are screaming "25 and under only" at me.
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(07-03-2026, 03:48 PM)Smitty Wrote: Naji+Klay for Jrue. Clears the roster spot for Tarik, who replaces a bit of both outgoing. 
Mavs would have ~$10m to offer Tarik year 1. Not saying that’s what it would take, just what they’d have available.
Props for thinking of that. Very creative. Even at his advanced age, he would clean up the backcourt. He can play some point (not ideal, but can play it). I think Max would be ok going to the bench and you then have a nice mix and match.
Unfortunately for a team like Portland looking to make a jump after making the playoffs, I can't see them moving him. I think Sharpe can be had pretty cheap and Scoot would be next. We will see.
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(07-03-2026, 03:48 PM)Smitty Wrote: Naji+Klay for Jrue. Clears the roster spot for Tarik, who replaces a bit of both outgoing. 
Mavs would have ~$10m to offer Tarik year 1. Not saying that’s what it would take, just what they’d have available.
I've stated my thoughts on this before. I like it. I think there needs to be a few choice vets on this roster that have seen the promised land. They should be guys that rookies can look up to. Kyrie and Jrue fit that pretty well. And unlike Naji and Klay, Jrue solves a PG problem for limited minutes, and I think Naji and Klay's minutes can be replaced by younger players who need to see some time on the court.
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Stop trading Naji, jerks.
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(07-03-2026, 04:33 PM)cow Wrote: Stop trading Naji, jerks.
Quit crapping on Christie
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League sources tell @TheSteinLine and @DLLS_Sports that Spanish rookie Sergio De Larrea has signed a four-year, $16.3 million contract with the Mavericks at a full 120% of the rookie scale.
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(07-03-2026, 04:51 PM)Smitty Wrote: League sources tell @TheSteinLine and @DLLS_Sports that Spanish rookie Sergio De Larrea has signed a four-year, $16.3 million contract with the Mavericks at a full 120% of the rookie scale.
Probably another buyout he'll have to make himself, just like Justin Beberovic.
Question: the $900 K limit on what the Mavs can contribute to those...is that a flat total in every case, as in they can contribute that much to 7 different buyouts if they wish, or is accumulative, drawing from a set total dollar amount that resets, annually?
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(07-03-2026, 05:38 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Tobi gets a two way
https://x.com/mavspr/status/2073172800878137407?s=61
Expected. I still think there is a chance Ishchenko gets that 15th roster spot. I have a feeling Schmitz is really high on him. Made him a promise and drafted him, although I´m pretty sure that nobody else would have. Pretty sure Ishchenko would have withdrawn from the draft without Schmitz, too. A 2nd round promise is also pretty useless for the player, if there is no plan behind it.
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(07-03-2026, 09:39 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Expected. I still think there is a chance Ishchenko gets that 15th roster spot. I have a feeling Schmitz is really high on him. Made him a promise and drafted him, although I´m pretty sure that nobody else would have. Pretty sure Ishchenko would have withdrawn from the draft without Schmitz, too. A 2nd round promise is also pretty useless for the player, if there is no plan behind it.
Glad Ishchenko’s on the summer team, but we have yet to hear about two-way vs. full contract. Wonder what happens with that.
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(07-04-2026, 01:00 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Cool video breakdown of Biberovic:
https://youtu.be/tYYXixjweCA?si=wUrhKDQlfUJx0o85 He can definitely shoot.
There's nothing else in this "breakdown", but he's good enough to be a rotational player in the NBA.
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1 I have seen nothing to change my mind on the idea that Ishchenko was drafted as a draft-and-stash. Everything he has done has mirrored what a draft-and-stash would do. Mavs bring them over in the summers to check progress until they are NBA-level ripe.
2 I still think Lebron is worth wishing for (although a long shot). I think minutes-shot-ball potential would be the difference maker, were he to say yes, because significant usage is not a slam dunk on teams stacked with stars who also are set to get lots of shots and on-ball minutes.
3 I am 75% convinced Biberovic will NOT be a Mav this year. Instead, imo he's a "draft" (by someone else)-and-stash, for now. I also think the Mavs are legit-interested in Lebron and they don't have money/slots/role for both. I think the TB odds go up somewhat if Lebron says he is signing elsewhere.
4 In theory Sasser will come in a trade using BAE, and Aldama using the TPE, but they would be be able to retain both exceptions to use elsewhere if they have an outgoing player. I think the details of those transactions still very fluid, and final details not necessarily known by Mavs.
5 I wonder if Masai is playing the Presti game of amassing assets, with a view to developing the younger ones, and keeping/using the vets to their best potential, with an eye to selling the talented vets off later when a suitor is desperate and will pay the top price you can imagine, but not before.
6 They keep piling up solid younger assets. It feels like they won't want older ones that cost something to acquire. (If a team has an out-of-favor ex-star that they will pay someone to take, perhaps a different story.)
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(07-04-2026, 01:28 AM)WillE Wrote: He can definitely shoot.
There's nothing else in this "breakdown", but he's good enough to be a rotational player in the NBA.
On the contrary, I thought the video did a fine job of explaining the ways in which his role expanded this past season and the effect that had on his game. I found it pretty in-depth and informative.
I would imagine his initial role in the NBA will be much simpler.
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I think the Tarik "news" might be way overhyped. Digging for more info on him, I found several pieces of info that run contrary (or provide a different slant) to what we are hearing.
1 On the idea that the Mavs are "closing in" on a contract with him, that ignores the fact that he's not even a Mav and the Mavs couldn't do a contract with him even if they wanted to. He won't be a Mav until a trade is done, and if it's part of a bigger multi-team trade, we may be waiting a while before the Mavs even have his draft rights.
2 This hyped "Tarik might be coming" story -- with eager fan forum and podcast reports - is not new! Last summer there was an almost IDENTICAL anticipation in MEM that he was about to sign there, and how great he is, and yada yada yada. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDMpP69bo4
3 NOTE: Not only did he NOT sign with MEM, he instead signed a 3-year deal to stay, and one with a somewhat-prohibitive buyout. It was reported like this, and see if the wording sounds incredibly similar to now: On July 10, 2025, Biberović signed a new three-year deal with the reigning EuroLeague champions, despite significant interest from the Memphis Grizzlies who hold his NBA rights
--- Is this a guy just waiting for an NBA offer? Or is he milking his situation to keep getting more, playing one side against the other?
4 When I look at his stats, yes they look good on paper, but there are some real question marks. On his own team, other players are also shooting well over 40% from 3, including the former NBA (not-)great Nando de Colo who is 39 years old and who didn't last long in the US. To dig through his stats as well as the rest of the team, see: https://www.basketball-reference.com/int.../2026.html
-- Which raises a question: is he even the best player on his team?
5 The Euro reports push back on the idea that a deal with DAL is close. Instead, here is how they describe things, and this is posted today (by Yağız Sabuncuoğlu): "Dallas Mavericks have made an official offer for Tarık Biberović! Dallas's offer has not yet come close to the salary demanded by Tarık. Negotiations on the salary issue are ongoing. If Tarık transfers to the NBA, Fenerbahçe will earn 2 million dollars."
-- "Not yet come close" is a far cry from "closing in" on a deal.
6 I find it a bit cautionary that despite the description of him as a "star," I find no mention whatsoever that he has even received any awards and honors for his play in Turkey. I don't know what sort of all-league type of recognition is possible. Assuming those exist, he's not at that level?
7 One other point. If he's such an incredible prize, why did MEM (who certainly has great scouting and development, plenty of openings and a desire to develop and create superior NBA stars) decide to trade him to DAL? Did they perhaps decide it's a pursuit that goes nowhere, and that he's a player who asks for way more salary commitment than he's worth?
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(07-04-2026, 11:34 PM)F Gump Wrote: I think the Tarik "news" might be way overhyped. Digging for more info on him, I found several pieces of info that run contrary (or provide a different slant) to what we are hearing.
1 On the idea that the Mavs are "closing in" on a contract with him, that ignores the fact that he's not even a Mav and the Mavs couldn't do a contract with him even if they wanted to. He won't be a Mav until a trade is done, and if it's part of a bigger multi-team trade, we may be waiting a while before the Mavs even have his draft rights.
2 This hyped "Tarik might be coming" story -- with eager fan forum and podcast reports - is not new! Last summer there was an almost IDENTICAL anticipation in MEM that he was about to sign there, and how great he is, and yada yada yada. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDMpP69bo4
3 NOTE: Not only did he NOT sign with MEM, he instead signed a 3-year deal to stay, and one with a somewhat-prohibitive buyout. It was reported like this, and see if the wording sounds incredibly similar to now: On July 10, 2025, Biberović signed a new three-year deal with the reigning EuroLeague champions, despite significant interest from the Memphis Grizzlies who hold his NBA rights
--- Is this a guy just waiting for an NBA offer? Or is he milking his situation to keep getting more, playing one side against the other?
4 When I look at his stats, yes they look good on paper, but there are some real question marks. On his own team, other players are also shooting well over 40% from 3, including the former NBA (not-)great Nando de Colo who is 39 years old and who didn't last long in the US. https://ww w.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/ulker-fenerbahce/2026.html
-- Which raises a question: is he even the best player on his team?
5 The Euro reports push back on the idea that a deal with DAL is close. Instead, here is how they describe things, and this is posted today (by Yağız Sabuncuoğlu): "Dallas Mavericks have made an official offer for Tarık Biberović! Dallas's offer has not yet come close to the salary demanded by Tarık. Negotiations on the salary issue are ongoing. If Tarık transfers to the NBA, Fenerbahçe will earn 2 million dollars."
-- "Not yet come close" is a far cry from "closing in" on a deal.
6 I find it a bit cautionary that despite the description of him as a "star," I find no mention whatsoever that he has even received any awards and honors for his play in Turkey. I don't know what sort of all-league type of recognition is possible. Assuming those exist, he's not at that level?
7 One other point. If he's such an incredible prize, why did MEM (who certainly has great scouting and development, plenty of openings and a desire to develop and create superior NBA stars) decide to trade him to DAL? Did they perhaps decide it's a pursuit that goes nowhere, and that he's a player who asks for way more salary commitment than he's worth?
Meanie. Let us indulge in our hopeful illusions.
Seriously, this does give perspective in the event that we do not secure his services after all. And point well taken that we don’t have his rights yet, but it’s hard to envision how that would end up removed from the final results of any trade. Note that by the same token, Aldama and Sasser aren’t Mavs yet either.
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(07-04-2026, 11:34 PM)F Gump Wrote: I think the Tarik "news" might be way overhyped. Digging for more info on him, I found several pieces of info that run contrary (or provide a different slant) to what we are hearing.
1 On the idea that the Mavs are "closing in" on a contract with him, that ignores the fact that he's not even a Mav and the Mavs couldn't do a contract with him even if they wanted to. He won't be a Mav until a trade is done, and if it's part of a bigger multi-team trade, we may be waiting a while before the Mavs even have his draft rights.
2 This hyped "Tarik might be coming" story -- with eager fan forum and podcast reports - is not new! Last summer there was an almost IDENTICAL anticipation in MEM that he was about to sign there, and how great he is, and yada yada yada. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDMpP69bo4
3 NOTE: Not only did he NOT sign with MEM, he instead signed a 3-year deal to stay, and one with a somewhat-prohibitive buyout. It was reported like this, and see if the wording sounds incredibly similar to now: On July 10, 2025, Biberović signed a new three-year deal with the reigning EuroLeague champions, despite significant interest from the Memphis Grizzlies who hold his NBA rights
--- Is this a guy just waiting for an NBA offer? Or is he milking his situation to keep getting more, playing one side against the other?
4 When I look at his stats, yes they look good on paper, but there are some real question marks. On his own team, other players are also shooting well over 40% from 3, including the former NBA (not-)great Nando de Colo who is 39 years old and who didn't last long in the US. To dig through his stats as well as the rest of the team, see: https://www.basketball-reference.com/int.../2026.html
-- Which raises a question: is he even the best player on his team?
5 The Euro reports push back on the idea that a deal with DAL is close. Instead, here is how they describe things, and this is posted today (by Yağız Sabuncuoğlu): "Dallas Mavericks have made an official offer for Tarık Biberović! Dallas's offer has not yet come close to the salary demanded by Tarık. Negotiations on the salary issue are ongoing. If Tarık transfers to the NBA, Fenerbahçe will earn 2 million dollars."
-- "Not yet come close" is a far cry from "closing in" on a deal.
6 I find it a bit cautionary that despite the description of him as a "star," I find no mention whatsoever that he has even received any awards and honors for his play in Turkey. I don't know what sort of all-league type of recognition is possible. Assuming those exist, he's not at that level?
7 One other point. If he's such an incredible prize, why did MEM (who certainly has great scouting and development, plenty of openings and a desire to develop and create superior NBA stars) decide to trade him to DAL? Did they perhaps decide it's a pursuit that goes nowhere, and that he's a player who asks for way more salary commitment than he's worth?
Thanks for your take - that’s one important tidbit of information here:
„ If Tarık transfers to the NBA, Fenerbahçe will earn 2 million dollars.“
So that means the release clause in his new contract from last year is 2 million - we can pay 900k directly if I‘m not mistaken and the remaining 1.1 million would have to come indirectly by adding it to his salary, so that’s definitely doable if we wanted to bring him over and he’s willing to look for his next challenge after winning everything in Europe.
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(Yesterday, 02:19 AM)Knutsen Wrote: Thanks for your take - that’s one important tidbit of information here:
„If Tarık transfers to the NBA, Fenerbahçe will earn 2 million dollars.“
So that means the release clause in his new contract from last year is 2 million - we can pay 900k directly if I‘m not mistaken and the remaining 1.1 million would have to come indirectly by adding it to his salary, so that’s definitely doable if we wanted to bring him over and he’s willing to look for his next challenge after winning everything in Europe.
Yes, that's the buyout and the Mavs can pay part if they want to (and then Tarik would have to pay the rest).
Of course, last year there was no buyout cost at all, and instead of signing with MEM, he signed a new deal with his Euro team that now will cost him money to get out of. The rules didn't change - when he signed that contract, he knew it had a buyout that would have him asking an NBA team to pay it, if he wants to play in the NBA. He signed it anyhow. The idea that DAL can just go ahead and pay part of it, and pay him more salary too to cover his buyout, that's a good line for Tarik to use in negotiating, but unless he is All-World in Europe (and I've seen nothing that says he is), the Mavs may be willing to just wait. Today's Europe-based report that the Mavs have "not yet come close" on the money would hint that that's kinda where things are.
We'll see where it goes, but right now I'm kinda skeptical he'll be coming.
It all makes me wonder if he used MEM as a negotiating tool that persuaded his team to give him more - pay me more money to stay, and then tack on a big buyout amount so you can get rewarded for having me under this contract when they come back again!
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Watched the highlights from the OKC-Memphis Summer League game. Memphis has plenty of all-stars on the Summer League team. They can afford to trade two all-star Euros to the Mavs. No problemo.
https://youtu.be/g9UZLiPoOWA?si=i65n62pFhSYOhMBU
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