Jimmy Butler Watch

[Mavs2021]

Jimmy Butler for Bradley Beal could work for both teams.

PHX: Tyus, Booker, Butler, Durant, Nurkic

MIA: Herro, Beal, Jaquez, Jovic, Adebayo

I can tell you exactly how that conversation went.

Phoenix: Beal
Heat: Booker
Phoenix: Nice talk.
Heat: Agreed.

[SleepingHero]

https://streamable.com/2kw0xp

Via Windhorst: Jimmy Butler will test FA no matter what happens. He will be a free agent in the 2025 offseason.

Macmahon instantly clarifies and says this isn't binding but all things point to that.

[SleepingHero]

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1869125989844013171

@TheDunkCentral
The Warriors and Suns are at the top of Jimmy Butler’s list, per @ShamsCharania

[KillerLeft]

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1869125989844013171

@TheDunkCentral
The Warriors and Suns are at the top of Jimmy Butler’s list, per @ShamsCharania

Beal has a no-trade clause, and I doubt he'd waive it to end up a Butler-less version of the Heat. Surely, the Suns aren't dumb enough to trade Booker for Butler, even if KD is begging for it (which I would hope he is not).

[DallasMaverick]

Beal has a no-trade clause, and I doubt he'd waive it to end up a Butler-less version of the Heat. Surely, the Suns aren't dumb enough to trade Booker for Butler, even if KD is begging for it (which I would hope he is not).

Maybe Jimmy has enough millions, and will sign for the minimum with the team of his choosing to go chase a championship.

...but I just don't think so.

[KillerLeft]

Maybe Jimmy has enough millions, and will sign for the minimum with the team of his choosing to go chase a championship.

...but I just don't think so.

No, and in fact, I'd bet what little money I have relative to Jimmy Butler that this is all happening because he already has an idea of what Miami is willing to offer him next and is unhappy with it. 

We always focus on value exchanging hands on these deals, but my belief is that about 50% of this big-name auction trade dance is about said big-name's agent determining which team is willing to pay the guy in the coming months. That's how the Mavs got BOTH Porzingis and Kyrie, for example.

[SleepingHero]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Six-time NBA All-Star Jimmy Butler prefers a trade out of Miami ahead of the Feb. 6 deadline, league sources told ESPN.

[SleepingHero]

All Things Mavs
@All_Things_Mavs
Shams doubles down on the Mavs being one of the teams that Jimmy Butler would be interested in

[SleepingHero]

All Things Mavs
@All_Things_Mavs
Shams doubles down on the Mavs being one of the teams that Jimmy Butler would be interested in

If this was last year and we could cobble together THJ+Holmes+Maxi+Grant Williams I'd be all for it, but we got good players now.

[Chicagojk]

I don’t see Dallas as an option. Tricky situation for Miami and Butler too. Probably best for Miami to move on. They are not a contender and can’t see how they can become one in the Butler timeframe.

But there appears to be a limited market out there due to his salary. So is it worth getting back 50% on the dollar for him? Also, with barely not teams having cap room this summer, could Butler go somewhere else without Miami’s help? If so, it it better for Miami to wait until the offseason if the offers are lukewarm.

I think I read Detroit could be a third team to help a deal like this? Would they want Porter Jr? The question is, would Miami get good value back in that type of trade?

[SleepingHero]

I don’t see Dallas as an option.  Tricky situation for Miami and Butler too.  Probably best for Miami to move on.  They are not a contender and can’t see how they can become one in the Butler timeframe.

But there appears to be a limited market out there due to his salary.  So is it worth getting back 50% on the dollar for him?  Also, with barely not teams having cap room this summer, could Butler go somewhere else without Miami’s help?  If so, it it better for Miami to wait until the offseason if the offers are lukewarm.

I think I read Detroit could be a third team to help a deal like this?  Would they want Porter Jr?  The question is, would Miami get good value back in that type of trade?

It's hard to see a team that satisfies 1) the needed salary to match Butler's contract. 2) The want/ability to give Butler his max contract, and 3) the ability to stay competitive even after a Butler trade.

Mavs could satisfy 1 and 2, but I highly doubt we'd be as good if we shipped off half of the team for him. Phoenix's ability to satisfy 1 hinges on Beal's NTC and Heat's want for him. HOU definitely can do 1 and 3, but has already voiced concerns for 2. 

And the offseason isn't much different, with only BRK with significant cap space. Butler seems stuck.

[F Gump]

All Things Mavs
@All_Things_Mavs
Shams doubles down on the Mavs being one of the teams that Jimmy Butler would be interested in

The idea that Butler would want to be a Mav is all that's said, and isn't that much of a surprise. The Mavs have a good thing going, went to NBA Finals last season, and have Luka plus lots of other talent. 

But this doesn't say that DAL is truly a possibility -- it would take a commitment of massive payroll plus a trade Mavs aren't likely to want to do. In light of how much talent would be required for a trade match, I'm not seeing a fit.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/4317...riley-says


Pat Riley says they aren't trading Butler now.

[SleepingHero]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
ESPN story with @WindhorstESPN: Jimmy Butler has indicated to the Miami Heat that he wants the team to trade him and is open to playing anywhere other than Miami.


He's getting desperate.

[SleepingHero]

NBACentral
@TheDunkCentral
Jimmy Butler when asked if he can get his joy back from playing with the Miami Heat

“Probably not”

[SleepingHero]

@esidery

Even if the Heat decided to offer Jimmy Butler an extension, he would now decline it, per @ShamsCharania.

The relationship between Butler and Miami is completely broken.

A standoff between Butler and the Heat’s front office will continue until a resolution is reached.

[Chicagojk]

@esidery

Even if the Heat decided to offer Jimmy Butler an extension, he would now decline it, per @ShamsCharania.

The relationship between Butler and Miami is completely broken.

A standoff between Butler and the Heat’s front office will continue until a resolution is reached.

This has a chance to be fascinating to watch.  Both sides typically get their way.    

I tend to be pro-player on most situations.   This is one of the areas I tend to say "come on".   Butler is making 48 million this year and has a player option next year at 50 million.   He is 35 years old.    I think the Heat are well in the rights of not extending him right now.    Sure, Butler can be pissed and it could be warranted for a "star" player, but he is older.   He should need to play at a high standard whether he stays there or not.   

If he is not traded, is he going to find a better option than picking up his option?    I don't believe there will be many teams with that kind of money available.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I am tired of the player empowerment era in the NBA. Never thought I’d say that as I’d rather support the millionaire players than the billionaire owners. But these dudes are out of control. Everyone wants a max. Most of them don’t take the regular season seriously. They all demand trades at the drop of a hat.

Steph and Jokic have been two of my favorite players because of their style of play. But they also show up to play for the fans paying for tickets. No drama.

[SleepingHero]

This has a chance to be fascinating to watch.  Both sides typically get their way.    

I tend to be pro-player on most situations.   This is one of the areas I tend to say "come on".   Butler is making 48 million this year and has a player option next year at 50 million.   He is 35 years old.    I think the Heat are well in the rights of not extending him right now.    Sure, Butler can be pissed and it could be warranted for a "star" player, but he is older.   He should need to play at a high standard whether he stays there or not.   

If he is not traded, is he going to find a better option than picking up his option?    I don't believe there will be many teams with that kind of money available.

I think this is one of the most underrated and interesting storylines of the year. Butler is doing everything he can to evacuate Miami. He's no stranger to big acts to get himself jettisoned from teams. I mean I still remember him destroying the Wolves to get traded.

[SleepingHero]

@TheDunkCentral
The Miami Heat believe Boston is beatable and that they can still contend without Jimmy Butler, per @sportsreiter. Miami would want a win-now piece in any trade involving Butler because they have no plans to rebuild.

“In internal deliberations, the Heat concluded they would want a key piece to help them win now in any deal that sent Butler away from Miami. ‘We don't do rebuilds,’ one source quipped. The Heat operate, even now as Butler looks to force his way to any other NBA team, under the idea they are a real contender. They believe avoiding the Play-In Tournament is critical. They acknowledge the Celtics are the East' best team but don't view them as unbeatable. They point out, as they have for years, their track record of playoff success post-LeBron came when most around the NBA doubted their chances, as they do today.”