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GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
- GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
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RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
dirkfansince1998 > 12-05-2022, 10:38 PM
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RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
cow > 12-05-2022, 10:42 PM
Hardy gets two and half instead of six minutes. Thanks, Jason. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
mvossman > 12-05-2022, 10:42 PM
At this point I would like to see Frank get some of Bullock's minutes. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Kammrath > 12-05-2022, 10:43 PM
NBA leaders in isolation frequency:
1) Harden - 36.2%
2) SD - 27.5%
3) Luka - 26.0%
4) Embiid - 22.6% -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo > 12-05-2022, 10:43 PM
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RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Chicagojk > 12-05-2022, 10:44 PM
So does McGee get the Boban role only no one wants to see him play? -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
cow > 12-05-2022, 10:46 PM
Hardy dominating. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo > 12-05-2022, 10:47 PM
Wood loves Hardy. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
cow > 12-05-2022, 10:49 PM
Hardy showing this board who HIM really is. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo > 12-05-2022, 10:50 PM
Wood took the ball (to avoid Hardy attempting another shot LOL). -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
IamDougieFresh > 12-05-2022, 10:53 PM
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RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
dirkfansince1998 > 12-05-2022, 11:02 PM
Getting closer to the best possible rotation. Green basically playing starter minutes. Bullock losing more and more minutes. McGee DNP coaches decision.
Remaining questions. THJ has great chemistry with Luka. Should SD move to bench. Should Green start. How does that work knowing that SD and Wood have zero chemistry. They would have to play most of their minutes next to each other.
I know that a lot of members still want to see Wood in the starting five. For now I am jumping of that train. He just hasn´t shown enough on defense to fill the role of Powell or Kleber. Mavs are asking their bigs to rotate all over the floor and he isn´t able or willing to do that. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-7, on B2B) @ DAL (11-11) | Dec 5, 7:30 pm | Mavs 3.5 pt Vegas favs
Chicagojk > 12-05-2022, 11:03 PM
I love when guys generally don’t like each other on the court. Luka and booker don’t like each other. Fun times. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
cow > 12-05-2022, 11:04 PM
(12-05-2022, 11:02 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Getting closer to the best possible rotation. Green basically playing starter minutes. Bullock losing more and more minutes. McGee DNP coaches decision.
Remaining questions. THJ has great chemistry with Luka. Should SD move to bench. Should Green start. How does that work knowing that SD and Wood have zero chemistry. They would have to play most of their minutes next to each other.
I know that a lot of members still want to see Wood in the starting five. For now I am jumping of that train. He just hasn´t shown enough on defense to fill the role of Powell or Kleber. Mavs are asking their bigs to rotate all over the floor and he isn´t able or willing to do that.
Nico needs to start shopping Dinwiddie and Bullock. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
mvossman > 12-05-2022, 11:09 PM
(12-05-2022, 11:02 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Getting closer to the best possible rotation. Green basically playing starter minutes. Bullock losing more and more minutes. McGee DNP coaches decision.
Remaining questions. THJ has great chemistry with Luka. Should SD move to bench. Should Green start. How does that work knowing that SD and Wood have zero chemistry. They would have to play most of their minutes next to each other.
I know that a lot of members still want to see Wood in the starting five. For now I am jumping of that train. He just hasn´t shown enough on defense to fill the role of Powell or Kleber. Mavs are asking their bigs to rotate all over the floor and he isn´t able or willing to do that.
Yep. The final step right now is to replace Din with Green in the starting lineup. Actually the final step is to trade Wood + Bullock for Collins and let Powell play on the second unit with Din (and maybe sooner than thought Hardy). -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
Jym > 12-05-2022, 11:14 PM
Yeah hopefully we can figure some way to turn Wood into someone who would be a better long term fit
He's a little too braindead to fully trust -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
omahen > 12-06-2022, 12:51 AM
Everything is easy when the shots are falling. Now, do Mavs play better (more engaded) defense because the shots are falling or are the shots falling because Mavs play better more engaded defense?
Now all in with Bertans/Bullock contracts for a two way wing, move SD to the 6th man and we might have something. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
DanSchwartzgan > 12-06-2022, 06:40 AM
Now that was fun. Excellent D in the first half and the 3's were falling in quarters 2, 3 and 4. Note that the first quarter lead was based on holding Phoenix to 15 on 26% shooting. We only shot 36% from 3 that quarter. Continued good D in the second quarter (held them to 26 points on 42% shooting), but we hit 45% of our 3's. Second half was just a free for all. We gave up 70, but continued to shoot lights out.
Subtle change in rotation that I really liked. Green was first off the bench, subbing for Dinwiddie at 6:49. Wood came in about 1:24 later, but Green Energy had already take over the power grid. Wood got his 18, but didn't take his first shot until 2:13 left in the quarter. Green scored 10 points and had a steal in the time between when Wood checked in and Wood took his first shot. It didn't have to be that way...some credit to Wood that it did. Green subbed out for 2 1/2 minutes in the second quarter and then came back to close the half in place of Dinwiddie. Green closing halves is getting much more common. He had 16 1/2 minutes at halftime. If he's not going to start, this is how you use Green
In the second half, Maxi was first off the bench, Green second and Wood didn't come in until Ayton sat. This time Green played almost 15 minutes straight. It would have been interesting to see how Kidd would have closed a tight game. Wood probably would have gotten 3 few minutes and 2 fewer points in a close game. He feasted when Ayton was out. Tim and Reggie basically split a position (other than the final 2:25 when the bench was cleared). That is also a significant change if it holds. It means Green got to join Luka and SD in splitting the 1/2 minutes three ways while THJ/RB split the 3 minutes in half. Splitting two positions with Luka and SD is a 30+ minute role. Splitting 48 minutes in half with someone is only a 24 minute role. Dorian got all of his minutes at the four (but only 23 total) with Powell, Wood and Maxi taking the remaining 4/5 minutes.
I noticed people commenting in the game thread about liking the rotation. To me, it was a really nice way to handle a B2B. Whether Green will continue in a 30+ minutes role or not is TBD. I suspect Dorian will not continue to only get 23 minutes, but he almost has to take any increased minutes at the three, which really pinches the THJs, Bullocks and Greens of the world. There are probably 80 minutes available at the 1/2/3 outside of what Luka and SD take. That's an average of 26.6 for THJ, Bullock and Green, but if Dorian takes 8 minutes at the 3, then we drop to 24 minutes each for THJ, Bullock and Green. It is hard to run a 10 man rotation of guys who are at very similar levels. -
RE: GAME 23: PHX (16-8) @ DAL (12-11) | 130-111 win
mvossman > 12-06-2022, 09:27 AM
(12-06-2022, 06:40 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I noticed people commenting in the game thread about liking the rotation. To me, it was a really nice way to handle a B2B. Whether Green will continue in a 30+ minutes role or not is TBD. I suspect Dorian will not continue to only get 23 minutes, but he almost has to take any increased minutes at the three, which really pinches the THJs, Bullocks and Greens of the world. There are probably 80 minutes available at the 1/2/3 outside of what Luka and SD take. That's an average of 26.6 for THJ, Bullock and Green, but if Dorian takes 8 minutes at the 3, then we drop to 24 minutes each for THJ, Bullock and Green. It is hard to run a 10 man rotation of guys who are at very similar levels.
At this point I am more than fine pinching Bullock. Starting didn't work, coming off the bench didn't work and December didn't work. At this point maybe a severe cut in minutes will do the trick.
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