DRAFT: #18 [Green] & #31 [Terry] & trade for #36 [Tyler Bey]

[Scott41theMavs]

2 days until the draft. Also, today's the day for trades, 3 days until option deadlines, and 4 days until free agency.

[Kammrath]

https://nbabigboard.com/2020-draft-tiers/

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https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/...0182130689

[Kammrath]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/...5128634368

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https://twitter.com/MavsDraft/status/132...1249579015

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https://twitter.com/MavsDraft/status/132...7891061764

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https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/...3842685968

[michaeltex]

I have a question for the board experts on 3pt shots. We use the NCAA 3pt % as a reference for how some of these guys will do in the NBA, and for some reason a little voice in my mind says "be careful with that comparison". 

Currently, the NCAA 3pt distance is 22 feet, 1¾ inches, or about what the corner NBA distance is, so that should translate well, but the top NBA distance is 23 feet, 9 inches above the top of the key. Does this extra 21 inches make a difference? Is this why some of the college shooters have problems adjusting? Does it make a de-value the NCAA performance as a factor?

It also makes the step back shots made by Luka and others (e.g., Harden) even more remarkable.

[Kammrath]

I have a question for the board experts on 3pt shots. We use the NCAA 3pt % as a reference for how some of these guys will do in the NBA, and for some reason a little voice in my mind says "be careful with that comparison". 

For whatever reason the biggest correlation to NBA 3 pt success I am pretty sure is FT%. FT% is the best predictor of shooting in general even when guys have had lots of success with shots 21 inches shorter.

[KillerLeft]

I have a question for the board experts on 3pt shots. We use the NCAA 3pt % as a reference for how some of these guys will do in the NBA, and for some reason a little voice in my mind says "be careful with that comparison". 

Currently, the NCAA 3pt distance is 22 feet, 1¾ inches, or about what the corner NBA distance is, so that should translate well, but the top NBA distance is 23 feet, 9 inches above the top of the key. Does this extra 21 inches make a difference? Is this why some of the college shooters have problems adjusting? Does it make a de-value the NCAA performance as a factor?

It also makes the step back shots made by Luka and others (e.g., Harden) even more remarkable.

For whatever reason, FT% has historically been the best indicator of 3pt catch and shoot success in the NBA, even above college 3pt percentage. No idea why...maybe it has to do with the ability to consistently reproduce the same process/motion?

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Wow, the same post, typed at the same time!

[Mavs2019]

I have a question for the board experts on 3pt shots. We use the NCAA 3pt % as a reference for how some of these guys will do in the NBA, and for some reason a little voice in my mind says "be careful with that comparison". 

Currently, the NCAA 3pt distance is 22 feet, 1¾ inches, or about what the corner NBA distance is, so that should translate well, but the top NBA distance is 23 feet, 9 inches above the top of the key. Does this extra 21 inches make a difference? Is this why some of the college shooters have problems adjusting? Does it make a de-value the NCAA performance as a factor?

It also makes the step back shots made by Luka and others (e.g., Harden) even more remarkable.

For whatever reason, FT% has historically been the best indicator of 3pt catch and shoot success in the NBA, even above college 3pt percentage. No idea why...maybe it has to do with the ability to consistently reproduce the same process/motion?

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Wow, the same post, typed at the same time!

Most likely. It´s ultimately a similar situation. With the 3pt shot it´s the pressure of the defender´s movement in your face and with the FT it´s the pressure of being alone at the line and expected to make an easy shot, while you also need to block out all the fans behind the basket waving and shouting. How well can you execute technically under pressure.

Most guys can train themselves mechanically to shoot college threes, but if the whole motion is not technically sound the extra foot and the added pressure and length of the NBA and its defense will collapse the whole system.

That´s why I said it´s useless to let a guy take 80 3pt shots in an empty gym. That´s what they all prepared for. Ask them to make a a few trick shots to see whether they have any real feel for the basketball. That´s how I knew Luka was special. When you can tell whether a full court heave goes in or not, when you release it, that´s god given touch. Justin Anderson wouldn´t know whether the will go in or he´s about to murder a fan in the 18th row.

[michaeltex]

Quote of the Day in my book!

[Fuerza1]

We are going to trade #18 for Lou Williams? No way MBT are that foolish but I cannot put it past them, that's the kind of draft reputation they've built over the years unfortunately. And before any one says "omg but Luka," yeah I've seen blind squirrels find an acorn every now and then too.  

Hopefully they do the right thing and keep the pick, draft a rotation player on a bargain rookie contract for several years to come. Can't be that hard for a great talent evaluator like Donnie, right?

[ClutchDirk]

https://twitter.com/StevePopper/status/1...8279474179

[SkenfromLMF]

That´s how I knew Luka was special. When you can tell whether a full court heave goes in or not, when you release it, that´s god given touch...

Justin Anderson wouldn´t know whether the will go in or he´s about to murder a fan in the 18th row.

I remember Stack having that problem with passing... I SWEAR he had kickback from the floor vendors everytime he knocked the beer outta some fans' hands!!!
Of course some of those passes were deflections off of Dampier's Skillet-hands but others - those were straight at the $10 suds

[Kammrath]

[khaled1987]

2 days, and few hours , till the Mavs get a future All NBA player who will be their 2nd best player during the Luka dynasty.
#FACTS

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[Kammrath]

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/...0396498946

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https://twitter.com/MavsDraft/status/132...5615105028

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https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/stat...0795326466

[KillerLeft]

@"Kammrath" is that chart a mathematical summary of all of the mock drafts? 

If so, that's pretty damn cool.

[Kammrath]

Yes... Twitter mocks.

[Omega_Supreme]

I would love Kris Dunn

Do not count out young players that have had multiple coaches. Chicago is a shit show and this kid is still 25 with room to grow.

We need point guard defense in the West now with the top tier teams appearing to all have formidable point guards

[Scott41theMavs]

I would love Kris Dunn

Do not count out young players that have had multiple coaches. Chicago is a shit show and this kid is still 25 with room to grow.

We need point guard defense in the West now with the top tier teams appearing to all have formidable point guards

And play four on five on the offensive end?

I would have thought the MKG debacle would have soured us on that.

You can get away with having a guy who isn't an offensive wizard if he can do something offensively (cf. Powell, Dwight. He ought not to shoot 3's and does so anyway). It's much easier if that guy is a frontcourt guy, and much more palatable if he's a defensive monster. A point guard who is pretty well completely useless on offense? I loooooooove Dunn's defense, but I'm still out.

[Kammrath]

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1328519961434853376

“[#18] is a very, very popular pick. Pretty much every team in the league has inquired in some form or fashion on that pick.”

Though this generally is considered to be a weak draft, one thing this draft has is quality wings. That potential bad news for Dallas is that a lot of teams drafting in the Nos. 11-to-17 range also need wings.

A source wouldn’t rule out the Mavericks trading up if they become concerned that a wing they covet won’t make it to No. 18, but added that the draft is deep enough with wings that it might not come to that.

"We think we’re going to get something really good with that (18th pick), Nelson said. A wing? Probably, but . . . That’s not saying that if the right player, in a point guard’s body or a front court player, has big upside, we don’t feel pigeonholed into a (small forward) at 18. We’re going to take the best player. But, yeah, there’s going to be some threes there that we’re going to take a look at.”

[omahen]

I hate how Dallas media is preparing the terrain to lower the expectations for the offseason result.