(06-20-2021, 06:29 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Who asked to freak out? I was just referring to @omahen saying that he went back and saw nothing to worry about in Luka's past. I was just saying that to me is irrelevant when there were obvious maturity issues in front of our eyes.
So when that is pointed out, why is the goal post being moved and his age being brought up? If so, just say that the first time that he was immature and hopefully it is age related, than say that there is nothing in his past to be concerned about with him.
He came out of shape. I don't minimize that because the players or greats that he is compared to due to his talent and power he wields within the organization, never came out of shape. Kobe, MJ, or even Dirk (at least not until he won that elusive title) never came out of shape. All of them had many more excuses than a 21 year old Luka. Plus how does one excuse him mocking and rubbing it in on a coach, by saying he might have felt that RC was following Bob's plan due to Cuban's orders. At the end of the day it is still sticking a knife into another person and twisting it to hurt.
I am a Mavs fan more than a Luka fan. Dirk won my respect because of his personality as much as his talent and efficiency. I know this is a different generation and there are things personality wise that are just different that an old fart like me won't understand. However, I'm not going to just dismiss all this as age related, when there were the issues that I point above, apart from him not competing on defense and pouting after misses and not getting back. Plus how does age become a crutch when there are strong rumblings that he was not ready to listen to a coach who could provide him the experience and guidance that he lacked due to his age?
There is insane talent there and also some issues. Just as I said with KP (and I was right then) you can't just brush these things away. As a Mavs fan we all hope that he matures and he stays for a long time here. However there were things that he did this year that didn't sit well with me.
I think we are mixing two things here. One is being a diva and the other being immature. I agree about the latter, of course, he is only 22. But I don't think being immature equals being a diva.
(06-20-2021, 06:29 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Plus how does one excuse him mocking and rubbing it in on a coach, by saying he might have felt that RC was following Bob's plan due to Cuban's orders. At the end of the day it is still sticking a knife into another person and twisting it to hurt.
He didn't mock him. He told him to do the right move, not what was suggested by owners friend. A proud and respected coach would never make a move just because he is ordered to do it by a friend of the owner.
(06-20-2021, 06:37 PM)omahen Wrote: He came out of shape. I don't minimize that because the players or greats that he is compared to due to his talent and power he wields within the organization, never came out of shape.
None of those had Covid riddled offseason. And Luka came in better than year before. Or did that midrange just appear out of nowhere? I think you are unfair with your harsh critique looking at the world in black and white. There are objective reasons which were given.