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**KillerLeft** · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2021, 02:41 PM by KillerLeft.)

(08-02-2021, 02:34 PM)cow Wrote: Weren't there some favorable on/off numbers for the KP/DP combo?

Yes, but that was the year before last, before KP went totally belly up.

I'd also argue (perhaps unpopularly) that Powell at the defensive 4, before the injury, was a better fit with KP than Holmes. Both Holmes and KP are clearly 5's on defense, imo.

It also seems that most of that favorable on/off showing came from the (at the time) record-breaking offense which was based on the Luka/DP pick and roll, with KP spacing. @"Kammrath" thinks Holmes will pick right up where healthy Powell left off, and maybe he will. I'm not so sure, but he'll at least be good in that role right away. But, the other part of that is that KP was a spacer. We know that he didn't enjoy being a spacer. He has literally said that. Further, Harrison and Kidd have both said they plan to involve him in the offense more, which probably means touches from the extended FT line in, probably face-ups, but maybe not. Either way, this DOES NOT MAKE SENSE WITH HOLMES OR ANYONE ELSE WAITING FOR A REBOUND IN THE DUNKER SPOT.

mvossman · 08-02-2021, 02:41 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:34 PM)cow Wrote: I don't see why you can't play Holmes and KP together.

Weren't there some favorable on/off numbers for the KP/DP combo?

That was with KP playing center defensively and DP at the 4. Don't think we want Holmes playing the 4 defensively. Maybe you can make it work. Just feels like somebody (probably KP) will get abused on the perimeter.

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 02:42 PM

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/statu...2189263887

omahen · 08-02-2021, 02:43 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:34 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: https://twitter.com/DailyKnicksFS/status...9966010380

18 for Fournier should mean the same for Hardaway

¸I love Silver anti tampering fight. Really effective Smile

vfromlmf · 08-02-2021, 02:45 PM

Lowry + Powell --> MIA
KP + Achiuwa --> TOR
Siakam + Dragic --> DAL

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 02:48 PM

https://twitter.com/basketbllnews/status...4366907392

cow · 08-02-2021, 02:51 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:48 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/basketbllnews/status...4366907392

*thinking*

KP/DP for Hayward/Graham.

**KillerLeft** · 08-02-2021, 02:52 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:51 PM)cow Wrote: KP/DP for Hayward/Graham.

OMG I'd love that so, so much.

Hayward is every bit of the playmaker needed and then some (when healthy).

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 02:52 PM

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/...0830855171

**Kammrath** · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2021, 02:54 PM by Kammrath.)

Nothing from Fischer on the DAL front....seems like DAL's real plans may have possibly stayed on the down low this whole time. Just a guess.

**KillerLeft** · 08-02-2021, 02:55 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:54 PM)Kammrath Wrote: seems like DAL's real plans have possibly stayed on the down low this whole time.

Maybe their plans c-z.

They were clearly hoping for a shot at Leonard and then Lowry.

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 02:56 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:55 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: They were clearly hoping for a shot at Leonard and then Lowry

Only if you believe everything you read on the internet...... Wink

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 02:57 PM

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/...7799502865

**KillerLeft** · 08-02-2021, 02:57 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:56 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Only if you believe everything you read on the internet

I don't, but when it comes from so many people, it seems pretty clear.

You certainly post dancing gifs when those same people say things that fit into your hopes.

cow · 08-02-2021, 02:59 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don't, but when it comes from so many people, it seems pretty clear.

You certainly post dancing gifs when those same people say things that fit into your hopes.

I'm kind of torn actually. Lowry kind of feels like the Kemba pursuit that never really was. I believe we inquired about Leonard as I'm sure every team in the league did.

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 03:00 PM

(08-02-2021, 02:59 PM)cow Wrote: Lowry kind of feels like the Kemba pursuit that never really was.

100% my gut feeling. Who knows if it is right though.

**fifteenth** · 08-02-2021, 03:00 PM

I'm not going to assume that the rumors have it. And I'm wired to be a pretty hopefull dude. But things feel a little shaky at the moment.

**KillerLeft** · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2021, 03:02 PM by KillerLeft.)

(08-02-2021, 02:59 PM)cow Wrote: Lowry kind of feels like the Kemba pursuit that never really was. I believe we inquired about Leonard as I'm sure every team in the league did.

Agree with the second sentence, and would've been upset if they hadn't kicked the tires. You have to.

This idea that they "never really wanted Kemba" is something that was 100% invented in this community and has somehow gained traction, probably because people seem to more willing to believe things the more they read them. They wanted the dude badly.

**fifteenth** · 08-02-2021, 03:02 PM

(08-02-2021, 03:01 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: They wanted the dude badly.

I think this is true. And I think they wanted Lowry.

**Kammrath** · 08-02-2021, 03:02 PM

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status...7371899906

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