2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived

[jesusshuttlesworth82]

KP by all accounts wants to play but Mavs training staff have opted to give him rest games. He is not the only one being rested this year. Also it should be mentioned that the condensed schedule this year means even more rest games. We have seen the toll this schedule has taken in players. Many injuries this season. I am not worried ab rest games at all.

BRUH

He gets hurt every other week WITHOUT playing in a back to back.  

Not to mention what Kamm said.  Instead of him being better because of Luka, they're actually worse together.

I was the biggest cheerleader when that trade happened but I dont really see a way forward with this team with KP around unless we luck into another star.  Dude has been in the league for a while and I could set a better pick than him.  He just wants to bomb away.

[Kammrath]

I was the biggest cheerleader when that trade happened but I dont really see a way forward with this team with KP around unless we luck into another star.

Yep, me too.

[jesusshuttlesworth82]

Even the 14yr olds on reddit that worship every shitty Mavs backup are starting to turn on KP

[ItsGoTime]

FIFY

I think you're gonna be disappointed if all they can get is $.75 on the dollar, because there is no question in my mind that they keep him in that case.

[ItsGoTime]

The Knicks traded him, cause they used these "DATA ANALYTICS", you all love so much. 10 years ago also known as common sense.

That has nothing to do with why they traded him. He demanded a trade...

[Mavs2021]

That has nothing to do with why they traded him. He demanded a trade...

Yeah totally. That´s why they traded him, because the Glass Man successfully threatened them with signing the QO.

[ItsGoTime]

Yeah totally. That´s why they traded him, because the Glass Man successfully threatened them with signing the QO.

Not a single report at the time talking about what you said, but go ahead and believe whatever you want.

[RedFlag41]

Would a KP and JRich for Wiggins and Wiseman be a good trade for both teams?

[jesusshuttlesworth82]

I dont think the Mavs want to wait on Wiseman to develop.

[IamDougieFresh]

Shitardson has to go

[RedFlag41]

Mavs do not have to wait for Wiseman to develop. They just have to surround Luka with players who complements him. Wiggins can replace Richardson's defense and scoring, Wiseman can play back-up center when The Mavs sign Holmes to be their starting center.

[Branduil]

Mavs do not have to wait for Wiseman to develop. They just have to surround Luka with players who complements him. Wiggins can replace Richardson's defense and scoring, Wiseman can play back-up center when The Mavs sign Holmes to be their starting center.

I think more likely is that the Mavs trade Wiseman to a rebuilding team for someone who can contribute now.


Anyway, I'm quite ready to be done with KP and JRich, and THJ should only come back if it doesn't interfere with improving the team. The MBT absolutely MUST have a home-run offseason after failing 2 years in a row.

[Kammrath]

ready to be done with KP and JRich

[MFFL]

Have we seen this healthy version of KP this season or is this some kind of pipe dream? KP missed more than 1/3 of all games this season and ranks 3rd last in net rating among rotation players. Only Richardson and THJ are worse. Every single big on the roster except for KP is a net positive.

And yet KP was one of the 10 best players in the world last year in the bubble

[ItsGoTime]

This team is better at this point in time of Luka's development being Luka and his merry men. 

Trade KP for 2 lower profile, higher caliber starters like Brogdon and Turner (not all stars, but not far from it) and we look soooo much better. I think looking for another high profile player is a mistake. 

In all honesty, I wonder if Collins is too high profile (same might be said of Brog, but he doesn't seem to have the ego of a high profile player). Holmes is another name I'm very interested in to replace KP if we get players in his trade that aren't a C.

This is what I look for as a GM, let the other team get the best player in the deal, we get the much better fit to our team right now. I don't think this is our FO thinking though, so I imagine we mostly run it back.

[RedFlag41]

I am not sure the Pacers would want that trade. KP is a not fit with Sabonis.

A trade with GSW is more likely since rumours has it that they already inquired about KP.

[omahen]

I am not sure the Pacers would want that trade. KP is a not fit with Sabonis.

A trade with GSW is more likely since rumours has it that they already inquired about KP.

Agree about the Pacers. You could make it a three team trade though. Difficult to see it with GSW. Charlotte would be my target.

[Branduil]

I am not sure the Pacers would want that trade. KP is a not fit with Sabonis.

A trade with GSW is more likely since rumours has it that they already inquired about KP.

It could be a 3-way trade, KP+JRich to GS, Wiggins/Wiseman/assets to Indy, Brogdon/Turner to Dallas.

[RedFlag41]

A three-way trade is more complicated and less likely, but it happens so I hope it becomes true. Brogdon would help with ball-handling, facilitating, defense, and shooting; Turner will help with interior defense.

[MFFL]

You know how many players 7´3 and taller have played in the NBA throughout history? 28

You know how many have played more than 1000 career games? ZERO

The Knicks traded him, cause they used these "DATA ANALYTICS", you all love so much. 10 years ago also known as common sense.

That is what determines his trade value, too.

First off, many of those 7'3" players were from an era when TEAMS listed the heights of the players. Anyone really believe that Barkley was 6'6" or Barea was 6'0"? So I doubt if there are more than a dozen true 7'3" or taller players who have ever played

But lets go with your number and lets look at the 1000 game mark. There have only 143 players in the history of the NBA who have played 1000 games. Its a difficult benchmark

Being 7'3" isn't the life threatening curse that many make it out to be. There have been 15 players 7'0" or taller who have played 1000 games plus an additional 15 players who were 6'11".  Kareem was ONE INCH shorter than Porzingis and played 1500+ games

Guess how many players have been 6'0" and played 1000 or more games?

Chris Paul (he originally was listed at 6'1" but shrank due to NBA accuracy rules)

There have only been 2 players under 6' who have played 1000 games. There have only been 15 players TOTAL who are 6'2" or shorter who have played 1000 games and I bet there have been THOUSANDS of them who have played in the NBA

And finally, you CAN'T draw data from a subset as small as 28 players