Trade & FA 2024-25:

[Chicagojk]

I think Boston will try to reduce their salaries this summer while bringing in similar quality guys. I think the obvious moves are shipping out JRue and KP and try to get back similar talent on much lower salaries. They have most of their draft capital to execute such trades. 

I think JRue had worse season that last one and he is not getting any younger. Still, he could be a great short term solution. But, it would take more salary than just PJ.

Yes, it woudl take another player.   Not winding up in Boston.  If Boston wants a cheaper replacement, Dallas is probably out.    I am not sure they would be interested.  Although if Boston just wants to clear the salary, maybe there is a way. BTW Tatum tore his Achilles.

I would love Derrick White.  Although, I don't see that happening.  That would take a good asset and I am not sure Boston has interest in moving him anyway.

[Chicagojk]

Stein says there is a decent chance they look explore a trade market or PJ. Not a lot of definitives in that statement. Makes sense though, even if most of us really like PJ. Maybe even resign Gafford as well. I just think Flagg (eventhough we haven't seen him) and Lively need to finish games. I am higher no Lively than probably most. I just think they are both winning players and this works much better if Flagg, AD and Lively all play well together. In time, Flagg probably is PF when AD is gone.

[F Gump]

In theory you'd want BOS players, but Jrue is too old (about to turn 35), starting to be injury-limited, and starting to decline a bit. White is a bit younger (about to turn 31) but the wrong position unless Klay is part of the outgoing.

There's also the issue of finding a 3rd team to take about half the trade with no salary coming back, when there's probably not going to be a lot of open cap room to be had. But if I understand the new rules correctly, the Mavs will have a great opportunity if they decide to trade PJW, because a team with the NT MLE would be able to use that exception to acquire him in trade and send no salary back. If the Mavs GAVE him to a team, what picks could they get for doing that?

So something like this would work on the CBA front ...
Klay to BOS, White to DAL
PJW to ____, picks to DAL

It doesn't solve the need for a creator and/or PG, but imo it does improve the SG position and also gets the Mavs a lot younger/healthier at the 2 (although to his credit, Klay played 72 last season and his shooting splits on 3s and FTs were still excellent, all of which should make him desirable).

[KillerLeft]

In theory you'd want BOS players, but Jrue is too old (about to turn 35), starting to be injury-limited, and starting to decline a bit. White is a bit younger (about to turn 31) but the wrong position unless Klay is part of the outgoing.

There's also the issue of finding a 3rd team to take about half the trade with no salary coming back, when there's probably not going to be a lot of open cap room to be had. But if I understand the new rules correctly, the Mavs will have a great opportunity if they decide to trade PJW, because a team with the NT MLE would be able to use that exception to acquire him in trade and send no salary back. If the Mavs GAVE him to a team, what picks could they get for doing that?

So something like this would work on the CBA front ...
Klay to BOS, White to DAL
PJW to ____, picks to DAL

It doesn't solve the need for a creator and/or PG, but imo it does improve the SG position and also gets the Mavs a lot younger/healthier at the 2 (although to his credit, Klay played 72 last season and his shooting splits on 3s and FTs were still excellent, all of which should make him desirable).

I don't disagree with most of this, but I will push back in one key area:

MORE depth is needed in the BACK COURT, imo. They have a glut of usable bodies in the front court, which is great, but the roster just doesn't seem balanced. If someone better than Thompson (whose best position might be the 3, anyway, imo) is added, I'd have zero issues moving him to the bench, and I bet that would be an easier sell than it would be to PJW (just for example), who probably feels like he has a lot to accomplish in order to position himself for the next contract.

[Chicagojk]

I think PJ would bring a better return than Gafford, I think? Might be better to resign Gafford. Would probably cost less too and is insurance for Lively's availability.

We will see. A lot of options. I think one of Marshall or Martin may traded too. Mavs need more shooting. Not sure Martin has any value now.

[KillerLeft]

I think PJ would bring a better return than Gafford, I think?  Might be better to resign Gafford.  Would probably cost less too and is insurance for Lively's availability.

We will see.  A lot of options.  I think one of Marshall or Martin may traded too.  Mavs need more shooting.  Not sure Martin has any value now.

I just can't get there, sorry. That's THREE highly paid centers (once Lively's rookie deal ends) on a roster without a true PG, currently. Seems like terrible planning. 

I like all the players involved in the discussion, don't get me wrong, and I could actually be talked into moving BOTH Gafford AND PJW, but...I feel it would be insane to give Gafford the next contract he's already leaking he wants (or, are the Mavs leaking it to prepare us for the impending shake up?).  

If some people would prefer to trade Lively, I think that's nutbar factor 7, but it's at least a conversation worth having. I think he's vastly superior to Gafford, and him being farther away from a higher price tag makes him safer, too, imho.

[cow]

Boston would want a lot for White who's playing the best ball of his career. I don't think you'd want to afford him. Their situation is tough though, KP is expiring and has been dreadful, Jrue is old and has a lot of expensive years left, Hauser is starting his contract extension, Horford and Kornet are free agents and they are already close to the second apron. They have some difficult decisions to make.

[Chicagojk]

I just can't get there, sorry. That's THREE highly paid centers (once Lively's rookie deal ends) on a roster without a true PG, currently. Seems like terrible planning. 

I like all the players involved in the discussion, don't get me wrong, and I could actually be talked into moving BOTH Gafford AND PJW, but...I feel it would be insane to give Gafford the next contract he's already leaking he wants (or, are the Mavs leaking it to prepare us for the impending shake up?).  

If some people would prefer to trade Lively, I think that's nutbar factor 7, but it's at least a conversation worth having. I think he's vastly superior to Gafford, and him being farther away from a higher price tag makes him safer, too, imho.

I am not saying I have a firm direction yet, but a resign of Gafford would probably be a 2 year thing.    I thought the same before we had the first pick that Gafford was more likely to be extended than traded.   I think Nico wants to win now and they want to be a physical team.   Gafford pairs with Lively until Lively get a new contract (and proves to be healthy).   Then Gafford is moved.   Maybe I am reading this wrong, but I just have a feeling PJ is the more likely of the two to get traded.  Although Nico is really close to PJ, i believe.  At least that was what McMahon was reporting a month or two ago that PJ was one of his guys.

[KillerLeft]

I am not saying I have a firm direction yet, but a resign of Gafford would probably be a 2 year thing.    I thought the same before we had the first pick that Gafford was more likely to be extended than traded.   I think Nico wants to win now and they want to be a physical team.   Gafford pairs with Lively until Lively get a new contract (and proves to be healthy).   Then Gafford is moved.   Maybe I am reading this wrong, but I just have a feeling PJ is the more likely of the two to get traded.  Although Nico is really close to PJ, i believe.  At least that was what McMahon was reporting a month or two ago that PJ was one of his guys.

Oh, don't get me wrong - I don't think PJW is "safe," exactly. Way too much overlap with Flagg to assume he won't be shopped.

[vfromlmf]

Davion Mitchell is a name to watch. Strong point of attack defender. He's a backup PG who gets into the paint and makes good decisions. Played great in Miami. Restricted FA. Heat could use a player like Naji or Martin (former Heat they wanted to keep); or even PJW or Gafford if a pick is included. The Heat also looking at getting in on KD. Mitchell could sign in the $10M range.

[cow]

Never make a deal with Pat Riley!

[Chicagojk]

Maybe I am taking too much from the ncaa tournament, but wouldn’t mind moving a guy like Omax or someone else for a late first for Walter Clayton Jr.

[soog]

Boston would want a lot for White who's playing the best ball of his career.  I don't think you'd want to afford him.  Their situation is tough though, KP is expiring and has been dreadful, Jrue is old and has a lot of expensive years left, Hauser is starting his contract extension, Horford and Kornet are free agents and they are already close to the second apron.  They have some difficult decisions to make.

Thought I was abandoning 35 years of fandom after the trade, but the NBA writes pulled me back in with this plot twist.

Came back to see what people were saying about additions this summer, particularly White.

I agree that Boston will want a lot for White, but they are in a beggars can’t be choosers position right now. They need to clear some serious salary cap space. Ideally that would be KP and Holiday. It is going to be costly to move both KP and Holiday. They also may be without Tatum to start the season and will want to bring him back slowly.  

PJW for White makes a lot of sense for both sides. PJW can help take some of the load off of Tatum and backfill KP when they inevitably move him. Boston has to give up White, but could potentially shed a lot of salary between White and KP, while still getting back a starting caliber player in PJW. Throw in Hardy for salary matching purposes and they also get a young-ish guard to take some of White’s minutes.

[cow]

Thought I was abandoning 35 years of fandom after the trade, but the NBA writes pulled me back in with this plot twist.

Came back to see what people were saying about additions this summer, particularly White.

I agree that Boston will want a lot for White, but they are in a beggars can’t be choosers position right now. They need to clear some serious salary cap space. Ideally that would be KP and Holiday. It is going to be costly to move both KP and Holiday. They also may be without Tatum to start the season and will want to bring him back slowly.  

PJW for White makes a lot of sense for both sides. PJW can help take some of the load off of Tatum and backfill KP when they inevitably move him. Boston has to give up White, but could potentially shed a lot of salary between White and KP, while still getting back a starting caliber player in PJW. Throw in Hardy for salary matching purposes and they also get a young-ish guard to take some of White’s minutes.

I don't think Tatum plays next season and which will lead them to punt on the season with the problem being they'll still be competitive due to their depth and being in the East.  They pick swap with SAS in '28 and owe their '28 to Portland or Washington so they have some first round ammunition to play with.  Even if I'm not a fan of the player, the Tatum situation is awful.  He's so young and the success stories coming back from that injury near the same are pretty limited (Dominique, Durant).

[ThisIStheYear]

I just can't get there, sorry. That's THREE highly paid centers (once Lively's rookie deal ends) on a roster without a true PG, currently. Seems like terrible planning. 

I like all the players involved in the discussion, don't get me wrong, and I could actually be talked into moving BOTH Gafford AND PJW, but...I feel it would be insane to give Gafford the next contract he's already leaking he wants (or, are the Mavs leaking it to prepare us for the impending shake up?).  

If some people would prefer to trade Lively, I think that's nutbar factor 7, but it's at least a conversation worth having. I think he's vastly superior to Gafford, and him being farther away from a higher price tag makes him safer, too, imho.

The reason to trade DLive and not Gaff is simply that DLive has pretty significant value and Gaff does not. DLive will bring back the player you want.  If Davis stays he’s really going to have to come to terms with playing center, especially as he gets older. He never really has become the stretch 4 you need for the position anyway. So moving DLive isnt the worst idea if you get a very good guard in return. I’d consider keeping PJ and playing him at the 4 with AD and CF at the 3. Cooper seems to have enough agility to play the 3, even if he’s probably more of a 4 long term. The Mavs do need to get under the aprons though. It’s too early for that.

[Chicagojk]

Another thing to consider is the mavs should have a deep front court. Don’t trade just to trade. Lively has not proven to be a heavy minute player for a full season. He should probably split time with another player during the regular season. More inportantly, you really need to watch AD minutes. Maybe keep him at 30 minutes in the regular season. Ned to keep him fresh in the regular season. Can’t ask him to do heavy lifting every game.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

One more injury and I would start gauging Lively's value around the league.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Another thing to consider is the mavs should have a deep front court.  Don’t trade just to trade.  Lively has not proven to be a heavy minute player for a full season.  He should probably split time with another player during the regular season. More inportantly, you really need to watch AD minutes.  Maybe keep him at 30 minutes in the regular season.  Ned to keep him fresh in the regular season.  Can’t ask him to do heavy lifting every game.

do we still have Kai Jones?

[LukaMVP]

keep lively pj gafford davis martin and now Cooper all on board and guys like naji and omax would be Morris type bench warmers. I agree we should not trade our valuable assets just because our frontcourt seems crowded but when a good deal is out there there should be no reason not to pull the trigger. a ball handler is what this team needs most, even with Kyrie back we'll still need a solid backup for him.

[FireNicoHarrison]

I think sell, sell and sell it's totally wrong for us.

We don't have our picks and Flagg needs a winning team to grow up better and faster.

I don't say to not make trades, but just improve and fix the roster.

I still hope Harrison will be fired before the start of the season.
He lost the fanbase, he can't survive in Texas. No way.