Sup pals. AD Sucks.

[Jmaciscool]

FWIW, AD has not done much to ingratiate himself to the DAL fans. I know the injuries are the public cause, but the lack of conditioning in the offseason is extremely disappointing given the Luka criticism.

Interesting, I actually feel differently. I think his comments after being traded here seemed genuinely insightful and were very positive considering that he never asked to be traded here.

His detached retina injury/surgery prevented him from being able to work out (you're not allowed to do anything physical, like at all, while it heals, or at least that's my understanding). So I can give him a pass for his current shape.

That being said, I do think it's best for both the team and him if he's traded, but overall I think he's handled himself really well here so far, especially considering the difficult circumstances that brought him here.

[FireNicoHarrison]

FWIW, AD has not done much to ingratiate himself to the DAL fans. I know the injuries are the public cause, but the lack of conditioning in the offseason is extremely disappointing given the Luka criticism.

Agree.

Personally, two games in particular really bothered me... 

- Doncic's first game in Dallas, where instead of proving his worth, he was a ghost. 

- the first of this season against Wemba. He was destroyed.

Soft guy. Not a leader.

[KillerLeft]

Good stuff. Thanks!

What he is NOT, is the type of player you can build an offense around. We've known the end of that movie since back when it was called "New Orleans: Rise of the Pelicans."

I think the fact that he's only played like 14 games since coming here is a valid thing to be upset about. I don't really understand why the very abnormal case of him reporting out of shape is such a big deal since we factually know it's due to the weird eye injury he had, and not on laziness or unprofessionalism, but I do get the irony of that in regards to the trade, sure. I think for some (many?) fans, it's just too much to ask for them to separate their emotions about the trade from their level of investment into AD as a Maverick. 

But honestly, what I really think is that a ton of casual fans (mostly not from this board) expected AD to be a dominant offensive player, and we should never have expected that. He's not a shooter. He's not a low post guy, really. He's not a 1-on-1 guy, even in his spots, like Dirk was. He can be a dominant finisher of plays, and teams for sure have to know where he is when they're defending, but without a dominant offensive player for him to complement, it's tough to like AD on offense.

[mvossman]

What he is NOT, is the type of player you can build an offense around. We've know the end of that movie since back when it was called "New Orleans: Rise of the Pelicans."

I think the fact that he's only played like 14 games since coming here is a valid thing to be upset about. I don't really understand why the very abnormal case of him reporting out of shape is such a big deal since we factually know it's due to the weird eye injury he had, and not on laziness or unprofessionalism, but I do get the irony of that in regards to the trade, sure. I think for some (many?) fans, it's just too much to ask for them to separate their emotions about the trade from their level of investment into AD as a Maverick. 

But honestly, what I really think is that a ton of casual fans (mostly not from this board) expected AD to be a dominant offensive player, and we should never have expected that. He's not a shooter. He's not a low post guy, really. He's not a 1-on-1 guy, even in his spots, like Dirk was. He can be a dominant finisher of plays, and teams for sure have to know where he is when they're defending, but without a dominant offensive player for him to compliment, it's tough to like AD on offense.

I'm not even entirely sure how much we can blame him for the injuries.  He played his first Mavs game before the Lakers were planning on playing him, and he was on a nearly 40 minute pace before he got injured.  It appears there has been a pattern of Nico pushing injured guys to play sooner and for more minutes than they should since the trade.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

[Stein] It's believed the Mavericks will work with Davis' camp over the next two-plus months as they decide whether to pursue an in-season trade. Dumont and Rich Paul are expected to work in concert to some degree on next steps.

[cow]

[Stein] It's believed the Mavericks will work with Davis' camp over the next two-plus months as they decide whether to pursue an in-season trade. Dumont and Rich Paul are expected to work in concert to some degree on next steps.

Dumont with a crash course in basketball operations.  It's about time, but still worthy of a hat tip.

[fifteenth]

What he is NOT, is the type of player you can build an offense around. We've know the end of that movie since back when it was called "New Orleans: Rise of the Pelicans."

I think the fact that he's only played like 14 games since coming here is a valid thing to be upset about. I don't really understand why the very abnormal case of him reporting out of shape is such a big deal since we factually know it's due to the weird eye injury he had, and not on laziness or unprofessionalism, but I do get the irony of that in regards to the trade, sure. I think for some (many?) fans, it's just too much to ask for them to separate their emotions about the trade from their level of investment into AD as a Maverick. 

But honestly, what I really think is that a ton of casual fans (mostly not from this board) expected AD to be a dominant offensive player, and we should never have expected that. He's not a shooter. He's not a low post guy, really. He's not a 1-on-1 guy, even in his spots, like Dirk was. He can be a dominant finisher of plays, and teams for sure have to know where he is when they're defending, but without a dominant offensive player for him to compliment, it's tough to like AD on offense.

I agree with every bit of that. 

I may fall into some level of that "casual fan" these days, AND also, the fan who can't see very far past how unfair the trade has felt. Interestingly, because I was concerned about Luka being OK with being out of shape, the initial blow to me personally, when the trade happened, was a dead, kinda, "go figures" reaction. But then, every day after that, as I thought more about it, I got more and more upset about the trade. So, I'll own this: My attitude towards AD absolutely has been massively influenced by my negative opinion of the trade. 

Having said that, I have never thought of him as a #1 offensive option. And I wasn't paying attention enough to even know what his injury was. I can feel for the human, AD, who actually seems like a cool guy and who I'm sure doesn't actually want to be injured. But I already didn't have much patience for the idea that we could be really good with AD as our best player, and the idea that Nico wanted to play all bigs. So, tuning in to some highlights and seeing a fat AD, standing flat footed, with a hand up, 10 feet away from a shooter was just too much. 

All that's over now!!! 

My new stance is "AD IS AWESEOME! YOUR TEAM NEEDS HIM, NBA GM!"

[fifteenth]

[Stein] It's believed the Mavericks will work with Davis' camp over the next two-plus months as they decide whether to pursue an in-season trade. Dumont and Rich Paul are expected to work in concert to some degree on next steps.

NICE!