(07-12-2021, 06:47 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Thanks for the F- for Oubre.  I'll try to bring him up more as it has seemed to unite the board and unity is kind of a thing now.

(07-12-2021, 06:20 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Here's a conundrum given your known likes and dislikes.  Say we spent our cap space well.  Fill in whatever guard/wing you are hoping we add next to Luka.  We did it for $22mm and still have $12mm after JRich opted out and we declined to TO on WCS.  GS wants to deal for KP, but they are only offering Wiseman and S&T Oubre.  KOJr. has to make $16mm combined with Wiseman at $9mm to trade match KP, but that adds $6mm to cap room.  No picks, no changes to the deal of any kind.  Holmes hasn't signed anywhere and is willing to come for our $18mm in remaining cap space.

So, your offseason is Conley (my pick, but you could pick someone else), Holmes, Wiseman and Oubre or you say no to GS and get Conley and whatever $12mm will buy and still have KP.  What say ye?

(07-12-2021, 08:21 PM)cow Wrote: I don't consider KP a negative asset

(07-12-2021, 08:07 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: - I don’t want the highest % of the cap going to a guy who can’t play against small lineups. Had this debate before but again wouldn’t want to be paying Gobert his current contract either.

- I don’t want the highest % of the cap going to a guy can be “simply game planned out” on offense. Luka needed help. He wanted to have someone else help. The idea that KP was capable to do more and just not allowed to by the game plan is ridiculous.

- Wirh KP’s previous injury history, if he suffer one more season ending knee injury you will not be able to trade him period. His frame, history of guys his size are scary enough. Since we will be operating over the cap for the foreseeable future, it’s imperative that we not waste his 30+ salary slot. Have to either trade for usable players who salary match or open up the space this off-season and sign FA.

Just my opinion. The answers to KP questions on Thursday at the press conference will be telling.

(07-12-2021, 09:01 PM)Kammrath Wrote: 100% IN. 

I think Conley is SOLID (he scares me for age and durability). Look, I think Conley could end up being a HOMERUN of a signing, but I think there is only a 10% chance that it pans out that way. I think there is a 20% chance he ends up as a "bust" signing. That scares me.

I LOVE Holmes. Y'all know that an elite pick and roll partner for Luka is my number one desire above all else.

I LOVE the flyer on developing Wiseman BEHIND Holmes. 

I am willing to swallow the Oubre pill to get there.

(07-12-2021, 09:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: But I think he would be that if Wiggins is literally the only return you can get. And if his value is that low, it may not recover. Risking a lost season with Luka is too risky. Which is why I say....

(07-12-2021, 09:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: But I think he would be that if Wiggins is literally the only return you can get. And if his value is that low, it may not recover. Risking a lost season with Luka is too risky. Which is why I say....

(07-12-2021, 09:43 PM)Jommybone Wrote: I’m fine with Oubre for matching purposes, as long as he is headed to some third team that wants him instead of here.

(07-12-2021, 09:47 PM)Jommybone Wrote: Every time I read a trade involving Hayward and KP I think, how much does Indy want their hometown hero back, and what would we have to add to get the perfect fits (Brogdon/Turner) in return? KP to the Hornets, GH back home in Indiana, and two sharpshooting defenders joining LD77. I’d probably give Carlisle the pick of the non-Luka litter to make that happen.

(07-12-2021, 09:50 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: So, in other words, no.

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Getting rid of KP and getting back Brogdon *and* Turner? And we still have cap room? They can have Brunson and even DFS for that. Edit: just put KP to Charlotte, Hayward, Brunson, and DFS to Indiana, and Brogdon and Turner to the Mavs in the ESPN trade machine. It works.

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(07-12-2021, 10:05 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1414743857921773570

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(07-12-2021, 10:05 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1414743857921773570

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(07-12-2021, 10:36 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Thanks. I will never fault the Mavs for looking under every stone to find talent.   Most will not stick, but that is not the point.

He looks to have a beautiful stroke.  Put up pretty solid numbers his last two years in college and looks to play pretty well in G-league.   Solid rebound numbers, but nothing great.    

These are the types of players Dallas needs to constantly look at.   Long shot to ever make the roster, but intriguing.

(07-12-2021, 09:18 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: We've seen repeatedly no contract is untradable.

(07-12-2021, 11:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: People say this often, and I might be really stupid, but I feel like the exact opposite is proven true almost every year.

They have been trying to trade Kevin love for years. Look at the extent every team goes through just to unload Russell Westbrook. There are other examples, and I suppose it depends on what you mean by “untradable.”

Judging by the mess the Mavs are in right now with Porzingis, I’d say it’s at least much easier to build a team by avoiding overpaid, underperforming players. Sure, you can always move them, but not often in a way that makes you better.