(06-19-2021, 02:18 PM)omahen Wrote: Carlisle is no longer Mavs coach, which means contract was terminated.

(06-19-2021, 01:44 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Not sure why ppl hate Wiggins so much, you are not counting on him to be a top guy. At any rate KP's value is so bad GSW might need even trade you Wiggins straight up for KP.

(06-19-2021, 02:51 PM)cow Wrote: I only hate him because I've watched him play.  He's not good at, what's that thing again?   ...basketball.

(06-19-2021, 03:03 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I haven't watched him a ton but he seems to do well out there. His stats look good to me, where's the beef?

(06-19-2021, 02:55 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: My opinion about Wiggins:

I do think GS got more out of him than expected, and there were signs of improvement. But, ultimately, he's pretty available, right? So, it's not like they're dying to keep building around him. 

And, most importantly, this situation in Dallas is not likely to be as solid and organized as the GS situation with Kerr, Curry and Green, etc. Especially next year, since everyone in the building will be starting from scratch, finding their way. The entire identity of the organization will be up in the air, in a state of transition. Maybe not the best time to have a guy like Wiggins around.

(06-19-2021, 03:07 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I don't think it will be as bad as you think especially if Mosley is the guy.

(06-19-2021, 03:06 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Can't speak for others who have likely watched a lot more non-Mavs NBA games than I have, but the consistent knock on him has always been BBIQ. No BB idiots with Luka, please.

(06-19-2021, 03:11 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Okay but pretty sure things turned around in GSW, maybe bc he was finally on a good team. I don't think he gets the stats he gets unless he has some BBIQ going on in there. He'd probably be our 2nd best player the day he got here before any other moves were made. GSW played him at PF, I like the switchability with him and DFS. He also is probably our best defender day 1.

Lineup would be: Luka, THJ, DFS, Wiggins, [some center TBD]. I like it better than what we have now with KP honestly.

(06-19-2021, 09:22 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Something I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is how blank the slate might be for a new GM.  When someone proposes a Brunson trade, subconsciously I think to my self "no, that's Donnie's guy.  He's friends with his dad".  No, actually he's a backup PG over which the team has no control after next season.  I can play a similar mental exercise with most of the fan favorites.  DFS and Maxi aren't the hidden gem success stories unearthed by our GM.  They are just guys.  Maybe they fit the new GM's vision.  Maybe they don't.  THJ can be evaluated at face value and not based at all on family relationships or any other off-court factor.

The history with certain agents may or may not be gone depending on whether the relationship was more about Donnie or more about Cuban.  The rookies aren't the new GM's "guys" (and apparently weren't the old GM's guys either...too soon?) and the new GM didn't make the Porzingis trade.  People often say "no one is untouchable except Luka and _________" and then proceed to fill in their favorite player or some player they perceive the franchise won't trade because of X.  There is no X any more.  We can't even assume that our players will continue to perform in the same way as they have in the past because "Carlisle knows how to use Powell or doesn't know how to use _____".  It really is a totally blank slate...especially if the new GM is an outsider.  Look what just happened in Boston.  You can probably still smell Ainge's cologne in his office and Stevens has already erased one of his "mistakes".   Would an outsider GM be any more loyal to the current roster than the guy who got promoted from within?

(06-19-2021, 11:21 AM)cjeter24 Wrote: doh. didn't think of it at that angle.

That really sucks for Jackson. He has to go to a bad team for more money or take the MLE... Sucks to suck.

(06-19-2021, 05:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I am SO excited about this. We as fans haven't had real "new blood" in regard to approach and philosophy in basically decades. These are incredibly exciting times IMO.

(06-19-2021, 05:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I am SO excited about this. We as fans haven't had real "new blood" in regard to approach and philosophy in basically decades. These are incredibly exciting times IMO.

(06-19-2021, 05:29 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: My concern is that Cuban sucks at basketball decisions and since he has been owner he has made bad decision after bad decision.

(06-19-2021, 06:02 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: So if a team comes to you and offers you an unprotected 2023 FRP for DFS or Brunson or Maxi or a somewhat worse contract for an opted-in Richardson, do you take it just so you can saddle up if Beal, Lavine come available at next year's TDL?

(06-19-2021, 06:18 PM)omahen Wrote: No one would offer an unprotected FRP for any of those guys or all of them combined, no matter how bad salaries are you taking back. Unprotected picks are used for stars only. What we could perhaps hope for would be a trade with NY for our protected pick back.

(06-19-2021, 06:38 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: Completely disagree.  Teams on the back end of pick swaps who are going for it now would absolutely entertain a deal for a 3-D type player (see Milwaukee trading for 97 year old PJ Tucker).

(06-19-2021, 06:47 PM)omahen Wrote: Nope, it was a pick swap, not unprotected pick for Tucker. Milwaukee swapped 2023 pick for their own 2022 pick that Houston owned.

(06-19-2021, 07:00 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: Yes, but the 2023 pick the Bucks relinquished was an unprotected FRP in a trade for a non-superstar (your standard).  The pick that came back to the Bucks was their own 2022 in which there were a number of protections (in other words, not valuable).