(05-31-2021, 03:16 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Miles Turner averaged over 3 blocks this year and I keep trying to convince myself that he is worth taking a chance on. I hate his rebounding numbers and hate that he plays soft sometimes, but do you think Miles Turner is worth taking a flyer on? I love his contract too BTW. He seems like a guy that could flirt with an all defensive team at some point. 

Of the players available this offseason, Myles Turner is probably the most realistic target.

(05-31-2021, 03:16 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Miles Turner averaged over 3 blocks this year and I keep trying to convince myself that he is worth taking a chance on. I hate his rebounding numbers and hate that he plays soft sometimes, but do you think Miles Turner is worth taking a flyer on? I love his contract too BTW. He seems like a guy that could flirt with an all defensive team at some point. 

Of the players available this offseason, Myles Turner is probably the most realistic target.

(05-31-2021, 03:16 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Miles Turner averaged over 3 blocks this year and I keep trying to convince myself that he is worth taking a chance on. I hate his rebounding numbers and hate that he plays soft sometimes, but do you think Miles Turner is worth taking a flyer on? I love his contract too BTW. He seems like a guy that could flirt with an all defensive team at some point. 

Of the players available this offseason, Myles Turner is probably the most realistic target.

(05-31-2021, 08:54 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It´s so annoying that the Wizards have nothing to match Porzingis contract. Bryant/Hachimura or even Hachimura/Gafford is pretty reasonable, but Bertans contract is vomit-inducing. Maybe that is a trade for October, when freshly signed players become trade eligible and the Mavs could do MLE/Bryant/Hachimura for Porzingis.

(05-31-2021, 09:10 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I think Bertans contract is the going rate for high volume 3 point shooters is it not? He shoots almost 8 three pointers a game at a 40% clip. THJ will probably get paid more to do about the same. I think Rick would have use for him, you can't have enough shooters and his deal isn't as vomit inducing as KP's at this point.

(05-31-2021, 10:36 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: So you you gain 2% points on 3pt shots over KP with 2 extra shots per game? KP shoots almost 40% with 6 shots per game. but a 9ppg difference.
KP is a good 3 pt shooter too. If you want more 3s, adjust your scheme to have KP shoot. 

Bertans ain't the answer for a KP trade. He's not as good as KP but does make quite a bit less. Cap space trades for KP are just silly unless we have a commit for a big FA which won't be the case this summer.

(06-01-2021, 09:40 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Right I am just saying Bertans would most certainly be in a KP trade. I think the trade would be Bertans, Bryant and at least on of Rui/Deni plus maybe their draft pick and it would go down on draft night.

(06-01-2021, 10:15 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After writing the above, I wonder what a trade of Powell, Maxi, JRich (opted in) and DFS could net us? What I would want in return is a starting 2 way SG and lesser bench players than they all are. Someone like Charlotte with a glutton of guards that could use great lockerroom vet presence and who are recently playoff tested?

(06-01-2021, 10:07 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: That is very on par with what I just posted (was working on that post when you posted yours). I will say, I think Hachimura needs to be in the trade (if it's only 1 of Hachi or Avdija), however, I'm going in requiring both (and their 21 pick). If I come out with 1 of Avdija or the pick, I'd be fine with that.

I think the addition of Bertans makes THJ expendable and we can then go after Holmes to round out the starters. On our side, if they need players back, we can give up TT and/or Burke.

Luka/JB
JRich(opted in)/Green
Avdija/DFS (Avdija needs to win this spot over DFS)
Hachi/Maxi
Holmes/WCS

(06-01-2021, 11:14 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: It feels like THJ is going to be back no matter what for better or worse.

(06-01-2021, 12:44 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: There is little doubt of this. However, as I said, if we get Bertans (this could be a draft day trade, before we make a decision on THJ), he basically does what THJ is doing, so the question becomes, do we want THJ or his money? 

As far as Bryant, if he's as good as you are saying (I don't know at all) I think we could move either him or Holmes based on whichever wins the starting spot over the other. Otherwise, with the duo, our C spot would be set for the long term (think about having a C duo like TC and Hayward for the long future). We then take our pick of Bobi or WCS (WCS) to be our deep backup and trade or let walk the other 2 (Powell and WCS/Bobi).

Future would look bright if Rui and Avdija just need a change of scenery!

(06-01-2021, 01:01 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: It´s a longshot but 76ers fan are having their usual trade Ben Simmons playoffs meltdown. Couldn´t do anything in the half court. Was exposed at the FT line. Wizards hacked him.
KP to the 76ers makes no sense for them. Need to find a 3rd team with a legit PG that can replace Simmons. Would obviously require more than just KP from the Mavs.

(06-01-2021, 09:55 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: At this point, I think the best comparison for trade value is Vucevic. KP is 5 years younger and has played well enough in the past to believe that he can put it all together at some point, with a change of scenery and coach that works to make that happen.

WCJ - a rookie scale contract on a player that isn't working out for his team, but could use a change of scenery.
OPJ - a big expiring contract on a player that is useful on the court, in a position of need and could be signed to a reasonable contract for his contribution in the coming offseason.
2 firsts from a team that hopes to hit the playoffs soon enough to not worry about draft picks as much.

That to me is the minimum that I would let KP go for if I'm in the FO, and I work to get more than that. Obviously we have to look at the trade value each of those pieces brought and match that with what a team can and will give up.

(06-01-2021, 01:06 PM)JamesConway Wrote: Jimmy Butler for KP as a base might be an option.

Bam should be able to cover for KP on defense, you could plug in Brunson/Kleber/Timmy or Dragic SnTs to extend the deal.

There were reports about internal conflict with Butler and they just got bounced in the first round of the playoffs. Maybe there’s a „fresh start“ scenario for both teams doable.