(05-13-2021, 11:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: If the playoffs are successful,

(05-13-2021, 11:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: OK, now that that’s out of the way, I value JB much more than I do MR.  His pedigree as a second rounder gets in the way.  If we called him Mystery PG X and showed his numbers (especially per 36), people would go nuts to add that type of guy.  JB is also a dream from a character standpoint and I think Robinson has some issues that make him less than ideal.  Setting all of that aside, I do fear NY is going to come hard after Brunson.  

Robinson IS in the contract situation I erroneously tried to paint regarding Brunson.  NY CAN make him restricted this offseason.  If they don’t, he’ll be UFA in 22.  So, if he’s RFA, it forces us to work under the cap for a S&T with NY as his raise will be substantial.  If he continues to play under his rookie scale this season, then he’s UFA in 22 and we’ve got just as much risk of losing him for nothing.  Plus, isn’t center the easier position to fill cheaply?  Since you keep posting this idea to little response, I thought I’d give one.  I’m not a fan for on-court, off-court and financial reasons.

(05-13-2021, 11:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Holmes?

(05-13-2021, 11:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, let’s say KP @ PF is a rousing success in the playoffs...same with THJ as the starter.  I think it changes the way we look at the roster.  Suddenly C is not KP/DP/WCS.  C is DP/WCS and PF is KP/Maxi.  With last night’s rotation in mind, what is now the weakest link?


C:  DP/WCS

PF: KP/Maxi

SF: DFS/JRich

SG: THJ/..............Green

PG:  Luka/JB (JB also gets minutes at the 2)


If the playoffs are successful, it probably means DP and WCS played well.  Could you get away with simply adding a fifth big (Theis?) who can play both positions.  Or, do you try to spend money here to get someone more consistent than WCS (Holmes?) and push Powell to the backup?

If there is a SF/Defender position, is JRich right for it?  If little offense is expected from this position, can Green do it almost as well for a fraction of the cost?  Or, might you go for a more expensive 3&D SF moving DFS to the bench?  Or, a starting level Guard and move THJ back to sixth man?

Just wanted to point out that a lot of our scenarios (the ones where KP is part of the team) are predicated on KP being the starting C.  It may not happen that way.

Edit:  One more thing...If THJ is a keeper, we might as well work over the cap and try to use the MLE and/or a trade or S&T of opted-in or UFA JRich...assuming he’s the odd man out.

(05-13-2021, 11:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Its just not going to happen.





OK, now that that’s out of the way, I value JB much more than I do MR.  His pedigree as a second rounder gets in the way.  If we called him Mystery PG X and showed his numbers (especially per 36), people would go nuts to add that type of guy.  JB is also a dream from a character standpoint and I think Robinson has some issues that make him less than ideal.  Setting all of that aside, I do fear NY is going to come hard after Brunson.  

Robinson IS in the contract situation I erroneously tried to paint regarding Brunson.  NY CAN make him restricted this offseason.  If they don’t, he’ll be UFA in 22.  So, if he’s RFA, it forces us to work under the cap for a S&T with NY as his raise will be substantial.  If he continues to play under his rookie scale this season, then he’s UFA in 22 and we’ve got just as much risk of losing him for nothing.  Plus, isn’t center the easier position to fill cheaply?  Since you keep posting this idea to little response, I thought I’d give one.  I’m not a fan for on-court, off-court and financial reasons.

(05-13-2021, 11:55 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: What would you consider a successful postseason for the Mavs?

(05-13-2021, 11:59 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think Brunson's numbers are a little misleading.  He makes a lot of those against second units and seems to really struggle with long, quality defense.  He also gets exposed defensively.  He is a great bench/role player, but I don't ever see him being a legit starter on this team.

That being said, I agree on valuing Brunson way more than Robinson, especially for a team that is desperate for play making and shot creation.  If we are going to trade away Brunson, I see it for somebody better and more expensive (like Ball or part of Brogdon trade).

(05-13-2021, 12:29 PM)Kammrath Wrote: RH is my target regardless of KP being in DAL or not. He is the perfect big for Luka in today's NBA. Switchable on D and elite roll man on O. Give me RH next to KP....or next to ________. Just give me RH.

(05-13-2021, 01:10 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I would definitely be down with a Brogdon, Brunson trade. What if NYK gave you Dallas future first back + MR?

(05-13-2021, 11:55 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: What would you consider a successful postseason for the Mavs?

(05-13-2021, 12:41 PM)mvossman Wrote: I have a really hard time believing that a KP/Powell/Luka/THJ grouping can possibly be good enough defensively for the playoffs.

(05-13-2021, 01:10 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: 1. Get out of the first round.
2. Win 2+ games in the second round
3. KP plays every game and plays well.

(05-13-2021, 01:46 PM)omahen Wrote: I think it is necessary to play Luka/KP PnR in the playoffs, not PnP as they had in the regular season. Without it, they will be in trouble.

(05-13-2021, 03:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: For all the things we complain about with the front office, I think some congratulations are due to both Carlisle and WCS on WCS play this year.   At his contract, that is a nice value they got from him this year.   He has been good this year.    

WCS will never be my cup of tea and I don't think I will ever trust him in a big, important game.   With that being said, on most nights he has been a plus on the court.   So props to Carlisle for working with him to improve his game and for WCS for having a nice season.   He has certainly exceeded my expectations.

(05-13-2021, 03:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: For all the things we complain about with the front office, I think some congratulations are due to both Carlisle and WCS on WCS play this year.   At his contract, that is a nice value they got from him this year.   He has been good this year.    

WCS will never be my cup of tea and I don't think I will ever trust him in a big, important game.   With that being said, on most nights he has been a plus on the court.   So props to Carlisle for working with him to improve his game and for WCS for having a nice season.   He has certainly exceeded my expectations.

(05-13-2021, 11:55 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: What would you consider a successful postseason for the Mavs?

(05-13-2021, 04:32 PM)F Gump Wrote: I know there are many who idly toss WCS to the curb for next year, in order to eke out a bit more latitude for cap room, but I've never seen it happening. Still don't, and this ^ is why - his salary, as is being noted, is bargain priced.

(05-13-2021, 06:03 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Short answer...More.

Long answer.  I don’t think just being happy to be here is good enough.  I’d like to end the playoffs with everyone healthy going into the summer.  That would be successful.  I’d like a Calvin Booth moment if I’m honest.  But, we all know there will be only one winner and everyone will get bounced eventually and there will be those among us calling for various heads no matter what round we exit.

Would I be pleased if we took Denver or LAC to a game seven and we lost a nail-biter?  That’s really kind of the question, right?  That fits the definition of “more”.  I can hear people defending the team that we never really got to play our best lineups together for much of the year.  I’m afraid I want a bit more to be satisfied.  I want Calvin to hit the put back...even if we get bounced in four games in round two.