(05-10-2021, 10:02 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: A) the two absolutely cannot be played together, and B) that's potentially a ton of money to spend on two guys who play the same role.

(05-10-2021, 10:21 PM)mvossman Wrote: I feel like putting a rim runner on the court with KP takes away one of his most useful/unique skills (pulling centers to the three point line) but pushing him out to the 4 on defense would truly crater his value.

(05-10-2021, 10:02 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don't disagree. I think the resistance to this is that A) the two absolutely cannot be played together, and B) that's potentially a ton of money to spend on two guys who play the same role. 

But, if you can figure out how to do it without limiting your ability to complete the roster, then absolutely!

(05-11-2021, 08:51 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: The other option would be Maxi + Powell for Collins if you can do the 125% trade match on his first year. The issue with any of these deals is...

(05-11-2021, 09:46 AM)Branduil Wrote: I mean $15 mil for Holmes plus $12 mil for Powell is less for 48 minutes of rim-running than we're currently paying for sometimes 20+ minutes of unicorn

(05-11-2021, 08:57 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Am I the only one that is completly out on a Collins/KP pairing? Surefire way to build a bottom ten defense.

(05-11-2021, 10:11 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: It's obvious even to KP. He knows a rim rolling big would have plenty of (easy) scoring opportunities in a Luka led offense. And he knows how good Dwight has been in that role lately. It's either KP starts rolling more, or he ends up as the third or even a fourth scoring option on a pick and roll play which features Luka and DP.

KP mentioned he and Dwight talk a lot on the court, and I would think DP has this high regard for KP, being the 2nd star on the team. Dwight's a team-first glue guy, he would care less about his stats and/or PT as long as they are winning. And he knows involving KP would help. So they can make it work, its up to the coaching staff to help them make it work.

Now if the Mavs go for Holmes, this would be a different story. Holmes would want to be featured and would want his numbers. If the Mavs can't figure out KP and DP, that issue will be ten-fold with Holmes. Expect a KP trade if Holmes is a Mav.

(05-11-2021, 08:57 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Am I the only one that is completly out on a Collins/KP pairing? Surefire way to build a bottom ten defense.

(05-11-2021, 11:04 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Powell/KP...Collins would be no worse than that.

(05-11-2021, 09:33 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: If we commit more money/roster space to rollers it would definitely be because KP is on his way out.

Kind of seems like the feeling is mutual...

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1391846711002288135

(05-11-2021, 10:55 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: No. That would be rough, for sure. I'm in lockstep with you on this one.

(05-11-2021, 11:11 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: I guess I am thinking I would rather have Powell at 12M than Collins at 25M.

(05-11-2021, 11:09 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: High as I am on Collins, I have to disagree here. I think Powell is a pretty underrated defender in terms of how well he moves his feet and how intelligently he plays. I'm slightly less familiar with Collins (though I HAVE watched him plenty) but I don't see him as much of a positive contributor on that end. 

Offensively, I'm with you. Collins can do most of what Powell can do in the roll game, and with the added dimension of shooting and even a little more creation.

(05-11-2021, 11:14 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: I also am out on a KP for Collins trade in the sense that to me its selling too low on KP and I don't know who to pair with Collins in the frontcourt otherwise. Maxi would be okay in that you can do switching but rim protection is an issue.

(05-11-2021, 11:11 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: I know that Powell is always jumping around for loose balls and tipping rebounds to teammates...he is supposedly always in the right position and making the right reads unlike WCS who seems to not get it sometimes.

Also...I forget that Collins' Max isnt like a veteran Max or Super Max...whats the most Collins can get from Atlanta?  From another team?  I guess I am thinking I would rather have Powell at 12M than Collins at 25M.

(05-10-2021, 11:52 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Anyone seen the numbers SG Khyri Thomas put up on the 10 day contract for Houston so far? 

21.5 PPG

57/40/100

4.0 SPG

1.5 BPG

Loved him out of college, wanted him over Brunson in 2018, then he was buried and often injured on the Pistons bench. Maybe he has figured it out. Okay it´s two games and basically all garbage minutes in Houston, but playing next to Luka you get as much defensive attention as the tanking Rockets.

He also shot 51.1 FG% and 40.6% 3pt FG% in three years of college, besides being a two time Big East defensive player of the year like Ewing, Mutombo, Iverson, Dunn, Okafor and Thabeet.

Maybe that´s the smart way to get Marcus Smart on a really cheap contract. Look for these guys before they get paid. Just because Iwundu didn´t work out, doesn´t mean Thomas can´t. I like the general idea behind this. Keep trying. It´s what the Sixers did during The Process. Play American Idol with 10 day contracts till Covington stuck around.

(05-10-2021, 09:15 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: I noticed that late game Collins was sitting behind 3 point line and they ran PNR with Young and Capela.  If that means anything.

(05-11-2021, 11:19 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Completely disagree that KP for Collins is selling low, but I'm right there with you about Kleber/Collins not being the right fit for your main bigs. KP for Collins definitely creates a hole at the 5.