(05-04-2021, 11:39 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Maybe the Pelicans? A real stretch five that can protect the rim and space the floor is basically the perfect fit next to Zion.

(05-04-2021, 11:22 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Wizards, Spurs, Raptors, Celtics?

(05-04-2021, 11:22 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Okay Charlotte, Sacramento and Golden State are the obvious teams.

Who else could be in for Porzingis?

Wizards, Spurs, Raptors, Celtics?

(05-04-2021, 12:02 PM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: I’m kind of interested in what a KP to the spurs trade would look like. Derrick White, Keldon Johnson and draft picks?

(05-04-2021, 12:14 PM)omahen Wrote: How about this way, since we are aggresively trading KP. 34 mil of cap space should be enough for Holmes and Markkanen, which could round up nicely our frontcourt rotation (if one believes in Markkanen to be more than he is showing currently in Chicago). So which team can offer best combination of at least 30 mil worth of players at guard or SF position for KP?

(05-04-2021, 10:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: They often get associated with Harrell too.

(05-04-2021, 12:14 PM)omahen Wrote: So which team can offer best combination of at least 30 mil worth of players at guard or SF position for KP?

(05-04-2021, 11:01 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Can I get some JRich clarity?

As I understand, he has a PO for next year at ~$11.6M. My questions of the experts here are:

• Would we expect him to opt in for another big payday or opt out in hopes of getting a longer deal at a lower salary, but for more overall?
  
• I see comments about letting JRich go, but it's really his decision correct? I mean he can be cut, but there is a financial cost if he opts in?
  
• Is he SnT eligible if he opts in?
  
• If he opts out, DAL can still sign him to a more friendly deal, correct? If so, is he SnT eligible then. (I know there is a years limit on SnT deals)
  

To me he's a bust here. Seems like a good guy. Hasn't really complained. But he is not the stopper DAL sold him as. Certainly not a reliable scorer next to Luka. I think he'll end up hurting DAL in the playoffs as teams sag off to double Luka.

Personally, I hope he declines then finds a home somewhere else. Kind of in the same boat with THJ.

(05-04-2021, 01:10 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: I guess I'll take a stab at this. 

Depending on what the overall market is like, it wouldn't surprise me if J Rich is able to get a multi-year deal without taking a pay cut. He hasn't been a great fit here, but I think there are probably a number of teams who could use a jack of all trades. 

Josh has the right to opt in. The Mavs could still cut him, but I don't know why they would, since he is still serviceable, and they would have to pay his salary, which would still count against the cap to all or some degree. They could still trade him, subject to the usual rules on trades. 

If he opts out, the Mavs could still re-sign him. 

Agree that he has been disappointing here, but that he might well find a good home elsewhere. I don't view him as in the same category with THJ. Tim has an elite skill, and an important one -- scoring. J Rich is a general all-around two-way player -- pretty good at a number of things, but not especially great at any one aspect of the game. I don't think he will be lacking in suitors if he leaves, but probably not at an enormous price. 

Of course, all this is just my thoughts -- determining what a free agent will command is subject to all sorts of external factors, and even professional GMs are subject to whiffing on it. 

Do you see it another way?

(05-04-2021, 11:58 AM)omahen Wrote: Definitely. 


If we are just listing teams that could use a stretch center and ignore if they have actually anything useful for Mavs or how it fits their cap, then you also have: Brooklyn, Detroit, Clippers, Lakers, Memphis, Miami and OKC.

(05-04-2021, 11:39 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Maybe the Pelicans? A real stretch five that can protect the rim and space the floor is basically the perfect fit next to Zion.

(05-04-2021, 01:26 PM)mvossman Wrote: If JRich opts in, he might actually be some value in a S&T.  If we are going after an RFA like Ball or Graham, it might be worth it to the other team to let the RFA go in exchange for a cheaper one year option with JRich who might end up being a better fit than here and they will have his bird rights.

(05-04-2021, 01:30 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I know most people would see it as a downgrade, but to me 57% availability Porzingis/Powell vs. Holmes/Bryant/Bertans/Hachmiura is a no-brainer. There is no way this is a worse team.

(05-04-2021, 01:31 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Can't see the Mavs trading KP to a team within their division. Maybe if they offer Ingram though...

(05-04-2021, 01:35 PM)omahen Wrote: For you anything is better than Mavs  

I am not really impressed neither by Hachimura or Avdija. Bertans is overpaid, a lot. The only thing he can do is shoot and he does it less than THJ. I would rather have Gafford than Bryant. I only see trade with Washington if you find third team to take these guys.

(05-04-2021, 01:55 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Outside the box idea. Is a Heat trade legal?

KP + Richardson for Robinson + Achiuwa + Dragic + picks

(05-04-2021, 02:10 PM)omahen Wrote: Of course. Only, Heat don't have many picks to trade. And you can't do it before FA

P.S.: I actually posted a very similar version a post or two before you

(05-04-2021, 01:41 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: What is the downside? That your play-off qualifying odds hinge on the 1-2 extra times you get to see Porzingis, because he plays in the same division instead of the Eastern Conference. That your fanbase gets psychological damaged and your reputation suffers, if he kills you four times a year instead of three?

I seriously don´t get it.

If a trade with the Pelicans makes us significantly better compared to a trade with the Cavaliers, then you obviously do the trade. It´s the same as the whole tanking/conversion debate. Who cares if the Hawks get the 7th or 11th pick, tanking was about improving our own odds to keep a top 4 pick. 

Also would have to be Ball or Ingram. Not even the veteran happy Mavs do this for Adams/Bledsoe.

(05-04-2021, 11:54 AM)Mapka Wrote: It's easy - if KP is healthy every team is in for a Kings ransom.

He is not. So teams will offer no real value.

We can gift away him or keep him as a lottery ticket ourself.

(05-04-2021, 09:01 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Holmes to seems like he would bring more defensively but also be a better version of Powell on offense.