(05-01-2021, 11:07 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: This team is better at this point in time of Luka's development being Luka and his merry men. 

Trade KP for 2 lower profile, higher caliber starters like Brogdon and Turner (not all stars, but not far from it) and we look soooo much better. I think looking for another high profile player is a mistake. 

In all honesty, I wonder if Collins is too high profile (same might be said of Brog, but he doesn't seem to have the ego of a high profile player). Holmes is another name I'm very interested in to replace KP if we get players in his trade that aren't a C.

(05-01-2021, 11:28 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Very much agree with this. One exception is I don't think JC is too high profile.

(05-02-2021, 12:32 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure the sticking point is "high profile" in a general sense. I think what's needed is an understanding and willingness to fit in where Luka allows. Mostly, that's going to appeal to role players, but if a high profile guy really gets it, that could work, too. IMO.

(05-02-2021, 12:51 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Question for the board, if you could bring Josh Richardson back at 6 to 7 million per year similar to a Curry type of deal, would you guys do that deal?

(05-02-2021, 12:06 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: KP for Rozier+Washington+Bridges.

Rozier isn't the secondary playmaker I am thinking of, but he does have nice assist numbers for a small SG scoring 20 a game.
Washington is the upgrade at PF, wouldn't interfere with a Holmes signing since PJ can shoot the 3 well. And the dude is just 22, think of PJ as the replacement value of the first round pick the Mavs would give to NY..
At the rate, DFS is improving, I am not sure if Bridges is an upgrade on offense, surely DFS is better on defense. But if Miles turn to be just a JAG as I think he is going to be, it sure is nice to have another athletic SF who can shoot at 40% clip. At least he has more use than a 3 point specialist like Bertrans.

Would Charlotte do this?
They do have a glaring hole at center and KP not only fills up the need but adding star power to a team who's scoring comes mostly form the guards. And, they have a guy like Hayward on that team which means they want to compete now, rather than later, can't wait for Miles to go on another level, he may not. And also, unloading Rozier will allow them to keep Graham and Monk. If they get KP their top 4 players could be Lamelo, KP, Hayward and Graham. Not bad.


For the Mavs:

F DFS/Bridges
F PJ/Maxi/Bey
C Holmes/DP/(Boban or WCS)
G Rozier/JR (if he opts in)/Green
G Luka/JB/Burke/Terry?

Still can sign THJ if he wants to stay.

No big 3 or even a big 2. Just a functional team that can compete and has the assets to flip for an upgrade.

Then at the TDL: You have everything you need to go at Lavine. 

(05-02-2021, 12:52 AM)MFFL Wrote: No

I think Green can do the job next year

(05-02-2021, 12:57 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: So essentially its the Seth Curry for Tyler Bey trade

The Mavs almost have to commit to seeing Josh Richardson beyond this season.

At the very least if we do lose Richardson I hope they do a sign and trade wherever he goes.

(05-01-2021, 09:33 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Not a single report at the time talking about what you said, but go ahead and believe whatever you want.

(05-02-2021, 12:51 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: if you could bring Josh Richardson back at 6 to 7 million per year similar to a Curry type of deal, would you guys do that deal?

(05-01-2021, 11:28 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Very much agree with this. One exception is I don't think JC is too high profile.

(05-02-2021, 12:32 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure the sticking point is "high profile" in a general sense. I think what's needed is an understanding and willingness to fit in where Luka allows. Mostly, that's going to appeal to role players, but if a high profile guy really gets it, that could work, too. IMO.

(05-02-2021, 03:34 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Yeah I can think for myself. Thank you.

If Porzingis re-injured his knee, he would have gotten a Cousins-like contract offer. He´d have lost $80M+.

Therefore his threat to sign the QO was not believable, so was his whole trade demand. He had no leverage at all. Simple as that.

If the Knicks wanted to keep Porzingis and were comfortable with a max offer, they´d have done it, whether he throws a hissy-fit or not.

That´s what matters, when assessing the trade decision from the Knicks side.

But yeah call me shocked that the Knicks didn´t run with: Hey you want Porzingis, there is no way in hell, we re-sign him, cause we believe his body is kept together by duct tape.

I´m positive Porzingis did ask out, but the Knicks were very comfortable to accomodate him.

(05-02-2021, 12:06 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: KP for Rozier+Washington+Bridges.

Rozier isn't the secondary playmaker I am thinking of, but he does have nice assist numbers for a small SG scoring 20 a game.

Washington is the upgrade at PF, wouldn't interfere with a Holmes signing since PJ can shoot the 3 well. And the dude is just 22, think of PJ as the replacement value of the first round pick the Mavs would give to NY.

At the rate, DFS is improving, I am not sure if Bridges is an upgrade on offense, surely DFS is better on defense. But if Miles turn to be just a JAG as I think he is going to be, it sure is nice to have another athletic SF who can shoot at 40% clip. At least he has more use than a 3 point specialist like Bertrans.


No big 3 or even a big 2. Just a functional team that can compete and has the assets to flip for an upgrade.

(05-02-2021, 08:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I like the direction of this.  Charlotte might be exactly the kind of team that would roll the dice on KP.  They probably have an extra guard between Ball, Graham, Rozier and Monk, so trading Rozier now before his free agency year makes sense.  BTW, his formerly great defense was seemingly left in Boston, but he’s a much better offensive player than he’s been in the past. He may or may not be the answer we’ve been looking for, but we have a year to find out.

I would actually do this without Washington.  I think Charlotte would prefer to keep one of Bridges or Washington.  I want Bridges.  He’s been a beast since he’s been starting.  Shorter version of Collins with a better 3 point shot.  He can rim roll.  He can do some things hanging around the basket.  He’s even shown some ability to ISO and draw fouls.  In his 17 games as a starter (all recent), he’s putting up 19/7/3 on a usage of 20 and TS% of .659.  I think you can start him next to DFS and fill most of your 3/4 minutes between those two and Maxi.  

You can do this deal at the draft (my preference) by adding a small salary in place of Washington (I’d prefer McDaniels).  I’d want a pick also, but my preference would be their 2023 pick so we’d have more options to trade all of our future picks.  Such a deal adds $6.5mm to cap room taking us to over $40mm without JRich/THJ/WCS.  Or, almost $37mm if you keep WCS.  I’d probably sign Holmes and keep Powell and WCS to be a 3 headed C rotation.  You have Bridges/DFS/Maxi at the 3/4 with Bey and McDaniels eventually joining the rotation.  You have Rozier/Luka/Brunson as your guard rotation with Green/Burke getting some minutes also.  And you have somewhere in the $20-$22mm range in cap room still.  With Rozier on board, you can carry room into 22 if you wish.  You have a solid 8 man with backups at all positions.  And, when some star comes on the market, you have Rozier’s expiring deal and the ability to trade 22, 24 and 26 if you’d like.

(05-02-2021, 08:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: You can do this deal at the draft (my preference) by adding a small salary in place of Washington (I’d prefer McDaniels).  I’d want a pick also, but my preference would be their 2023 pick so we’d have more options to trade all of our future picks.  Such a deal adds $6.5mm to cap room taking us to over $40mm without JRich/THJ/WCS.  Or, almost $37mm if you keep WCS.  I’d probably sign Holmes and keep Powell and WCS to be a 3 headed C rotation.  You have Bridges/DFS/Maxi at the 3/4 with Bey and McDaniels eventually joining the rotation.  You have Rozier/Luka/Brunson as your guard rotation with Green/Burke getting some minutes also.  And you have somewhere in the $20-$22mm range in cap room still.  With Rozier on board, you can carry room into 22 if you wish.  You have a solid 8 man with backups at all positions.  And, when some star comes on the market, you have Rozier’s expiring deal and the ability to trade 22, 24 and 26 if you’d like.

(05-02-2021, 09:45 AM)omahen Wrote: that Charlotte pick allows us to offer a nice enough package for Collins SnT, if needed. You can always resign WCS with exception money. 

(05-02-2021, 09:22 AM)Mavs03 Wrote: I would prefer to have both Washington and Bridges.  If it requires us to unload Green, Terry or Bey, I'm good with that.  I think Washington and Bridges are perfect fits in Dallas.