(03-30-2021, 04:03 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Something I saw on Mavs Twitter that's depressing is that Monta Ellis might be the best Mavs free signing ever (not including resigning guys like Dirk of course).

Every couple of years Fish and Donnie talk us into a superstar coming here and it's like Lucy and the football.

(03-30-2021, 04:15 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Wasn't Marion a sign and trade? I can't remember for sure, but I feel like he was. If so, I'm putting that one at the top of my list.

(03-30-2021, 04:03 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Something I saw on Mavs Twitter that's depressing is that Monta Ellis might be the best Mavs free signing ever (not including resigning guys like Dirk of course).

Every couple of years Fish and Donnie talk us into a superstar coming here and it's like Lucy and the football.

(03-30-2021, 04:18 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: It was a S&T so I count that more in the "trade" pile. Depending on how you classify that move he would have to be the top of the list.

(03-30-2021, 04:23 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I hated post championship plan powder. But giving up on free agency for ever seems a bit drastic. And 2021 seems like the exact worst time to give up on free agency.

(03-30-2021, 04:25 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Actually like the best time. Not a single max worthy player available. Best options are RFA and that´s always a bad idea.

(03-30-2021, 04:25 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Actually like the best time. Not a single max worthy player available. Best options are RFA and that´s always a bad idea.

(03-30-2021, 04:39 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Dropping all our bird rights to gamble on an RFA like Collins always scares the crap out of me knowing the incumbent team can always match and we just lose 72 hours of player movement.

The THT poison pill idea honestly scares me just as much (thought he seems like a great fit here).

To me it feels like the best move is to keep the continuity train going at team friendly prices and wait til we can package more FRPs again and strike when the iron is hot via trade.

(03-30-2021, 04:25 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Actually like the best time. Not a single max worthy player available. Best options are RFA and that´s always a bad idea.

(03-30-2021, 01:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: The funny thing, and the reason I'm becoming increasingly aware of how pointless these debates are is that if/when that happens, people will say "see, they should've been playing him all along" instead of "wow, that kid has come a long way. The coaches are doing a good job with him." 

(03-30-2021, 04:49 PM)fifteenth Wrote: We'll see. During the summer free agency and trades are all intertwinned. The Mavs have Luka established as a perennial MVP candidate, one of the top guys from whom to recieve a pass and one of the top coat tails to ride to success. And they have a tone of flexibility with cap space and tradeable contracts. They have to try to move the franchise forward this offseason. They have to try. Whether that comes via signing or trade or trade caused by the threat of signing, or some other mix, I care not.

(03-30-2021, 02:37 PM)JamesConway Wrote:  I think all parties involved would have been better off by just trading the picks for instant help or future assets down the road (to stagger for a bigger deal).

(03-30-2021, 04:53 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Cuban burner account confirmed

(03-30-2021, 04:49 PM)fifteenth Wrote: We'll see. During the summer free agency and trades are all intertwinned. The Mavs have Luka established as a perennial MVP candidate, one of the top guys from whom to recieve a pass and one of the top coat tails to ride to success. And they have a tone of flexibility with cap space and tradeable contracts. They have to try to move the franchise forward this offseason. They have to try. Whether that comes via signing or trade or trade caused by the threat of signing, or some other mix, I care not.

(03-30-2021, 01:24 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Hey guys, this is my first post here so I first just want to say how glad I am to find out this place existed.  I used to post every once and a while on the db.com boards under a different name, cdansby, but I kind of thought this all just died when Fisher moved sites without understanding that his entire audience were these boards.  Mavs Twitter and Reddit drives me crazy with how surface level and knee jerk some of the takes are, so seeing all these usernames again is quite the sight for sore eyes.

I got a million thoughts I'd like to get off my chest but I'll just stick with what's being discussed.

I get confused as to fans' frustration of the rookie's minutes this year as we are clearly in a little more of a win now mode compared to recent years and we also seem to be, you know, winning now when the roster is full strength and squeezing Green and the rest of the bunch out of the rotation.  I think we just caught a lot of bad luck this year with the G League not being what it normally is because I feel that all 4 kids would be getting most of their development there this year, so in that sense the player development has been disappointing but obviously not from any fault of the FO.  I also think it's weird to claim this team doesn't develop rookies when two of our starters were developed in house.

For the rookies themselves I think we have great upside in all 4 of them.  Personally, I think Bey may end up carving himself out a role sooner than the rest out of need (I'm also biased because I live in the Boulder area and saw a lot of him in college and was ecstatic when we landed him in the trade) but think that all showed promise in the bubble.  And although I was very high on the fit of Aaron Gordon as the 4 on this team, I'm glad Green wasn't moved because of the uncertainty around Hardaway's and Richardson's futures here at the moment.  At the very least we have someone we can thrust into those minutes and hope that he can step up if needed next season.  We also didn't really have the ammo to match Denver's offer anyway but that's a different point for a different thread.

I also think us sending out our second rounder shows that we like all 4 of those guys because we're basically saying we don't have roster space for that second rounder anyway because they plan on all 4 being guaranteed next year.

Anyways, these are random thoughts and not directly tied to other posts in this thread but just kind of excited that I'm here moving forward instead of listening to a bunch of reddit posters who have been Mavs fans for 2 and a half seasons screaming to fire Rick.

(03-30-2021, 05:01 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: If we ended up keeping this squad together and added a rotation player with the MLE would that be considered a step forward for you?  

(03-30-2021, 05:04 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: We should riot if that happens.

(03-30-2021, 04:57 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Donnie has a terrible history of drafting later on in the first round.