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RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - KillerLeft - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I do wonder if there is any chance J Rich actually opts into the final year of his contract.
Yeah, I found it interesting that Simmons' posture on this was "you never know, he might opt out" as if he could possibly be giving up the last year of an overpay to do so. I'm not sure I totally buy his thinking on Richardson, but it was certainly interesting to get the national perspective.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - KillerLeft - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:20 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Zubac is 64 percentile as the roll man....93 percentile on defending the roll man...97 percentile defending the post.
Zubac as a 3rd big? Sign me up, especially if the price is right.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - StepBackJay - 03-03-2021
I don't really see any of the Western contenders trading with the Mavs.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - mavsluvr - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I do wonder if there is any chance J Rich actually opts into the final year of his contract.
I suppose it's possible. Especially if he doesn't round into form.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Kammrath - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:27 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Zubac as a 3rd big?
I think he could be a starting big next to Luka IMO.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - ItsGoTime - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I do wonder if there is any chance J Rich actually opts into the final year of his contract.I think this might be a real possibility, although there is a lot of money to be thrown around this offseason.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - KillerLeft - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I think he could be a starting big next to Luka IMO.
Not trying to reopen old arguments for business, but just to be clear: with or without Porzingis?
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - omahen - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Not trying to reopen old arguments for business, but just to be clear: with or without Porzingis?
Re-check my idea
Dal: Collins, Zubac, Ball
Clippers: Brunson
Atl: KP
Cha: Huerter, 3 Clippers 2nd rounders, Dal FRP
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Kammrath - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:45 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: with or without Porzingis?
I think it could be either. I think he could be a DP from last season replacement type.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - KillerLeft - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I think it could be either. I think he could be a DP from last season replacement type.
And if the narrative around KP not being into that is true?
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:42 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think this might be a real possibility, although there is a lot of money to be thrown around this offseason.
If I'm JRich and given the Mavs recent successes in free agency, I'd opt out and play the market. Worst case scenario is that I could resign with the Mavs.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - HanspardShowerVoice - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, I found it interesting that Simmons' posture on this was "you never know, he might opt out" as if he could possibly be giving up the last year of an overpay to do so. I'm not sure I totally buy his thinking on Richardson, but it was certainly interesting to get the national perspective.
If he can't improve his offense the 2nd half of the season over where it's been, he should opt in and try to hit the market again after a rebound season (or he should squeeze his current overpaid contract out for all it's worth)
I mean ... he's getting really close to Kris Dunn territory of defensive specialist guard who can't carry his weight on offense. JRich's career PER is now 12.6 and Kris Dunn's is 11.9. And Kris Dunn got 2/10 on the market.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - Kammrath - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:58 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: And if the narrative around KP not being into that is true?
I am firmly in the camp and operating in my head that KP is not in the Mavs long term future. I think Zubac is the kind of big you want unless you invest in someone like Wiseman....but even then, maybe you still want a Zubac on the roster.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 03-03-2021
It would be nice to have someone built like a brick shithouse at center again.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - StepBackJay - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 05:00 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I am firmly in the camp and operating in my head that KP is not in the Mavs long term future. I think Zubac is the kind of big you want unless you invest in someone like Wiseman....but even then, maybe you still want a Zubac on the roster.
Why would the Clippers trade us Zubac exactly and what are the Mavs giving up? I don't see the Mavs wanting to give up anything good and I don't know why the Clips wouldn't just hang onto Zubac.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - KillerLeft - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 05:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I don't know why the Clips wouldn't just hang onto Zubac.
I don't either, but to be fair, Lue has not played him nearly as much as Rivers did last year.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - mavsluvr - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:58 PM)cow Wrote: If I'm JRich and given the Mavs recent successes in free agency, I'd opt out and play the market. Worst case scenario is that I could resign with the Mavs.
If he doesn't opt in, I could see the Mavs moving on. But yeah, that's probably what he'll do.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - cow - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 05:45 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: If he doesn't opt in, I could see the Mavs moving on. But yeah, that's probably what he'll do.
Bill Simmons killed him and called him Kris Dunn. I don't think he's playing that bad and he does show sparks of defensive greatness. I guess I just look at the deal we handed to Wright which is no where near the 2/10 that Simmons was talking about. Though you can tell that don't catch many Mavs games or aren't paying attention. They rave about THJ and he's kind of turned into an every other game/every third game type of performer.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - mavsluvr - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 05:53 PM)cow Wrote: Bill Simmons killed him and called him Kris Dunn. I don't think he's playing that bad and he does show sparks of defensive greatness. I guess I just look at the deal we handed to Wright which is no where near the 2/10 that Simmons was talking about. Though you can tell that don't catch many Mavs games or aren't paying attention. They rave about THJ and he's kind of turned into an every other game/every third game type of performer.
I'm not saying J Rich is a bad player. I would rate his performance with the Mavs about 5.5-6.5, with 5 being medium.
But when they were selling him to the fans, Carlisle said they wanted a guy who could guard point guards and who could take over the ball-handling some to enable Luka to play off the ball. He hasn't really done either of those things to any great extent. Not sure he is able to give what they want from that spot in the lineup.
He doesn't seem to consistently offer anything special on either end. But there are probably teams who could use a pretty decent all-around two-way player. And I haven't given up on him improving. Playing next to Luka is probably his best opportunity to showcase himself.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | Marc Spears: Mavs are shopping KP - mvossman - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 04:58 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: And if the narrative around KP not being into that is true?
Not sure why the Mavs would be into that. KP seems significantly more effective offensively in a 5 out scenario and if there are concerns about him being slow of foot, I'm skeptical putting another center on the court with him is going to help that.