Mavs Rookies G-League Watch: Green, Terry, Bey & Hinton

[omahen]

He's almost got all the foods that start with the letter "Q".

Quince is the game winner, so never mind the rest

[WillE]

I'd love to joke around this as well, but as to my understanding this has to be a serious issue, so I just don't. 

Side note: we traded for JJ, so one could read out of this is that MBT does not expect him back soon.

[SamStetz]

Quince is the game winner, so never mind the rest

Nicely done!! We’ve got a few quince trees...my grandpa use to make and sell quince jelly

[Chicagojk]

Tyrell lost a baby brother a few years ago (see article below).  I saw someone on redditt a few weeks ago that he never really properly grieved and was hit hard at his brothers birth date.   I have no idea if this is true and it is probably not right to take it as a matter of truth.   But he did have a brother who passed away.   

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In May 2018, Tyrell Terry was a 17-year-old high school junior, prepping for an AAU practice ahead of a weekend tournament in Chicago when his phone rang. On the other end, his father, speaking through tears, conveyed a heartbreaking message. Terry’s newborn brother, Tyshon, had died in his sleep of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
Now crying, Terry broke the news to his mother, Carrie Grise. He bypassed the tournament to prioritize grieving and recovery. Already a self-described introvert, he grew increasingly sheltered, sharing his loss only with close friends, and needing weeks and months to open up. After teachers denied his request to delay upcoming exams, he cycled through the motions of a daily routine, aiming to prepare for those tests, aware of the importance he and his mother placed on academics.

Years removed from this family tragedy, Terry is more candid and transparent about the gravity of losing a loved one. He is quick to relay the teachings learned and perseverance absorbed, entirely willing to discuss the experience. Navigating through his basketball journey has given him wisdom, made him aware of life’s brevity and the value of seizing moments. Advancing and carrying Tyshon’s legacy means, to Terry, being the best person and player he can. Gratitude and hard work became his defining response.

[WillE]

Tyrell lost a baby brother a few years ago (see article below).  I saw someone on redditt a few weeks ago that he never really properly grieved and was hit hard at his brothers birth date.   I have no idea if this is true and it is probably not right to take it as a matter of truth.   But he did have a brother who passed away.   

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In May 2018, Tyrell Terry was a 17-year-old high school junior, prepping for an AAU practice ahead of a weekend tournament in Chicago when his phone rang. On the other end, his father, speaking through tears, conveyed a heartbreaking message. Terry’s newborn brother, Tyshon, had died in his sleep of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
Now crying, Terry broke the news to his mother, Carrie Grise. He bypassed the tournament to prioritize grieving and recovery. Already a self-described introvert, he grew increasingly sheltered, sharing his loss only with close friends, and needing weeks and months to open up. After teachers denied his request to delay upcoming exams, he cycled through the motions of a daily routine, aiming to prepare for those tests, aware of the importance he and his mother placed on academics.

Years removed from this family tragedy, Terry is more candid and transparent about the gravity of losing a loved one. He is quick to relay the teachings learned and perseverance absorbed, entirely willing to discuss the experience. Navigating through his basketball journey has given him wisdom, made him aware of life’s brevity and the value of seizing moments. Advancing and carrying Tyshon’s legacy means, to Terry, being the best person and player he can. Gratitude and hard work became his defining response.

"Mental recovery" could actually make sense, as those cases take time and it's better for these processes when not shared with the media. 

Those cases are actually not uncommon, at least in European soccer. Quite some cases have pyhsical reasons communicated, but do in fact handle about psychological issues that are withheld from the media in order to support the recovery.

[JamesConway]

Melli already up to close to 200 minutes within a couple of weeks after the trade deadline despite his absurdly bad offensive and overall negative output.

What on earth could Bey do worse than him? 

It’s insane what is happening here with the three draftees. Carlisle acts like they aren’t even on the same planet as guys like Melli. He’s doing a pathetic job.

[embellisher]

Melli already up to close to 200 minutes within a couple of weeks after the trade deadline despite his absurdly bad offensive and overall negative output.

What on earth could Bey do worse than him? 

It’s insane what is happening here with the three draftees. Carlisle acts like they aren’t even on the same planet as guys like Melli. He’s doing a pathetic job.

Difference is Melli has been a positive on defense and at least has a semblance of an NBA offensive game. His BBIQ is very good and he hasn't made stupid mistakes.

[KillerLeft]

Difference is Melli has been a positive on defense and at least has a semblance of an NBA offensive game. His BBIQ is very good and he hasn't made stupid mistakes.

Yeah, if there's a legit beef with Carlisle lately, the case is probably built around the idea that Melli should be playing more, imho.

[HanspardsShowerVoice]

The  rookies don't play because the rookies aren't good and the Mavs are fighting for playoff seeding.    There is no need to overthink this too much.    And it's not just the Mavs problem either, this entire rookie class is as bad as advertised despite some podcasters and online content creators feverishly trying to pump them up.

[dirkfansince1998]

Yeah, if there's a legit beef with Carlisle lately, the case is probably built around the idea that Melli should be playing more, imho.

This. With Maxi´s recent slump he is easily the best perimeter defender among the bigs. Mavs defensive numbers with him on the floor are incredible. Just need to make sure that he shares the floor with two good shot creators (Brunson and Doncic).

[Chicagojk]

I think Green has looked OK and I wish we would see him more.  But minutes are going to be tough for him to get with everyone healthy.   He is active, seems to have a good feel for the game, is athletic and appears to be a good teammate.  I think he is a better shooter than he has shown, but that is something he will need to get better at over the next few years.

The big negative for me is his finishing.   He looks so strong and quick driving to the basket but his finishing is very underwhelming.   He seems to get blocked a lot too.   

His dribbling needs some work too, but some of his passes he has shown in brief runs are encouraging.   If he can develop a better three, he could potentially be more than a 3 and D guy and maybe have some playmaking responsibilities.   Needs to be able to score better off the dribble though.

[jesusshuttlesworth82]

These rookies are extremely raw.  I honestly dont understand how anyone can watch them play and think they deserve to be in the rotation.

[Chicagojk]

These rookies are extremely raw.  I honestly dont understand how anyone can watch them play and think they deserve to be in the rotation.

Yes,  Hopefully the Mavs expected this and are taking player development seriously.  When the picks were made, the Mavs had to believe this was a longterm plan.  I really hope they will be patient and work hard at their development.   This is a weird year, but I would be really interested how each of the rookies are being challenged.   

If you decide they can't play, then you can move on from them.  But hopefully the hard part is having them fill rosters spots while not helping on the court.  Hopefully they are able to get some reward over the next few years.

[SwisherPrice]

If there was a G-League season, these rookies would be in Frisco all year long. Hopefully there is one in 2021-22 because I would still prefer them to get some more experience down there first before seriously challenging for rotation minutes. There is no need to overthink or be impatient...this is a redshirt year for all of them.

[JamesConway]

These rookies are extremely raw.  I honestly dont understand how anyone can watch them play and think they deserve to be in the rotation.

When guys like Melli play it’s a legitimate argument to make.

[KillerLeft]

When guys like Melli play it’s a legitimate argument to make.

Either I don't understand your point, or I just think you haven't seen Melli play. He plays hard all the time. He's one of the better defenders on the team. He boxes out and rebounds. He's a willing and able screen-setter (there are only two on the team - 3, if you count Redick). He knows how to improvise within the system off of those screening actions. He's a great passer, always moving the ball at the right time, to the right person, and right on target. He can shoot. Heck, he can even create a little offense. 

I would play him more, I think.

[SleepingHero]

I agree that Green is very raw, but I really liked what I saw from him against DET. I even thought he deserved to play over JRich and close the game out.

[dirkfansince1998]

Green plays hard and rarely makes rookie mistakes. At least compared to some of the vets (WCS, Richardson and Burke). Solid game from him but it just looks really bad when the Mavs rookie can barely get minutes of the bench in a matchup with a team that is getting carried by three rookies.

S.Bey 18/8/3 4/8 3PA
I.Stewart 20/10 9/14 FG, 3blks
K.Hayes 2/1/11 2stls

I think Josh Jackson (24) was the oldest player on the floor for the Pistons.

[ballsrchr]

These rookies are extremely raw.  I honestly dont understand how anyone can watch them play and think they deserve to be in the rotation.

And they will continue to be raw until they are developed...which includes play in real games.  Unfortunately the Mavs have a history of trading raw rookies for a bag of potato chips...

[DanSchwartzgan]

I agree that Green is very raw, but I really liked what I saw from him against DET. I even thought he deserved to play over JRich and close the game out.

I see some good things when I watch Green.  He stays in front of his man very well.  He gets more than his share of contested rebounds.  He makes some really nice instinctive passes.  

https://go.nba.com/50kg

I think it is a mistake to plan out an offseason and not include Green in the plans.  

For instance, we haven’t had any love for Fournier since the TDL.  He hits 3’s and can contribute as a secondary playmaker.  He has some defensive deficiencies, but can play SG or SF.  You might be able to cover those deficiencies with DFS (when Fournier is playing SG) and Green (when Fournier is the SF).  There should be enough money to snag both Fournier and Holmes.

Holmes/KP/DFS/Fournier/Luka

Powell/Maxi/Fournier/Green/Brunson

You probably need a vet backup 3, but that isn’t a terrible 9 man and improves some of the issues we’ve had this season with THJ and JRich.