09-29-2020, 01:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-29-2020, 01:47 PM by KillerLeft.)
(09-29-2020, 01:04 PM)cow Wrote: Dirk rarely has anything but kind words to say about anyone. Billups, Miller and Kidd are working in the NBA as broadcasters, coaches or media personalities that have coaching aspirations. I'm not saying they have issues with Rick but you aren't going to get an unfiltered take from any of those guys. There is nuance to this conversation and simply digging your heels into one side of the fence is silly. He's had issue with some players. He's had great relationships with some players. One does negate the other and vice versa.
Also the "mentally ill" hot take is super shitty. Be better. For once we can look to our owner as an example with his handling of Delonte.
It's a job. Carlisle is their boss. I just think the "Carlisle can't get along with players" narrative is silly.
Does the "player of today" require a change in teaching tactics to be reached? Probably, but the teaching GOALS remain the same.
Can you get more out of your roster by being a "player's coach?" Sometimes, but I think what you get with that, mostly, is Joel Embiid or Karl Anthony Towns. I'm not interested in keeping a couple of immature prospects happy just so I can feel like the team is "developing" them. I'm interested in a culture that is known around the league to hold players accountable. If they're not into that, I'm fine with them not playing here.
Shaq and Wade have talked quite a bit about how much of an asshole Riley was with the Heat. They had to do way more calisthenics, constant weigh-ins, etc. Not their favorite part of their time there, but I guarantee you that in hindsight, they're glad they rose to the occasion. My contention is that the RIGHT kind of guy KNOWS deep down that they NEED someone who holds them accountable, and that this is true for any generation (though the delivery of this accountability will change as time goes by).
At the end of the day, I want my PROFESSIONAL basketball coach to treat his players like professionals. You can tell he's reaching more players than he's not reaching, because the team almost always drastically outperforms expectations (at least the reasonable expectations from unbiased non-Mavs fans).
Carlisle is frequently effusive with his praise of players in the media, particularly those who are struggling. I honestly believe that his rep is 80% media narrative, and probably a result of him being an asshole to the MEDIA (which he is), not to his PLAYERS.
I believe that pretty much ALL good NBA coaches are much harder on their players than this "new generation" narrative would have us believe. The bubble mics picked up Spoelstra SCREAMING at Tyler Herro a couple of weeks ago (2nd round game, I think). It was something along the lines of "Tyler that was a STUPID FU___ FOUL!" This was in a game, in front of everyone. Dennis Smith, Jr would have pouted and given up. Tyler Herro nodded his head, said "sorry" and won the game. To take that semi-real, semi-hypothetical comparison one step further, it's possible that DSJ figures some things out as he matures over the next couple of years and actually becomes a solid pro. Nobody ever doubted his talent, least of all Carlisle. But if he does figure it out, that doesn't change the reality of what he was obviously like when he was HERE. "Figuring it out" probably means, at least in part, remembering things that happened here in Dallas and recognizing that he, DSJ, could have handled certain challenges differently. You can't point to that, as a complete outsider fan, and claim it as evidence that Carlisle can't coach. That's insane.
Not saying that Carlisle (or any other human being) doesn't make mistakes. I'm sure he makes them every day. But, he treats his players with respect, and demands respect from them, all while demanding that they live up to the standards befitting "professional" basketball players who take their commitments to the organization seriously. I'm ok with that.