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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived
I still disagree with trading KP for whatever....that's nonsense.  

Collins was completely healthy, on a team with an elite rim protector and multiple offensive threats around him in the top 7-8 players, while the assessment of this board is that all the players on this roster are terrible (outside of Luka) and as horrible as KP was defensively, if you look at defensive rating on statmuse, he's still had a better defensive rating than Collins last season....while some are saying that he's a better defender.   Last season, before the injury, KP posted the second best defensive rating of his career. It just feels like a case of grass is always greener, to me.  Collins does shoot the 3 better, which is awesome, but if KP is healthy, he's better than Collins.

Holmes is obviously a good rim runner and more athletic big on a lesser team, but still a worse defensive rating than KP...virtually the same in per 36 stats on all three (except Collins' superior 3 point shooting), and KP was dealing with an injury.

If you get a good deal or a lateral one that puts the Mavs in a better position, but man, NO to trading for these trash packages, and this "step back to get better" bull crap.  If Atlanta isn't giving Collins a max, after going to the conference finals with him as the second leading scorer (which is still lower than KP), you might want to think about it.

I really, really hope that the front office is listening to none of this junk, man....really.  The ONLY thing that changes this for me is if KP is asking for a trade or if Luka is saying get rid of him like he feels about Haralabob.

For the last year, I've heard KP and Rick complain about where the analytics tell them to do, and Luka to fuss about who's running the court, Bob or Rick....and then with it coming out today that Rick was actually HELPING Mosley to get to Orlando with the video, then I think the MBT +1 was extremely toxic, and breaking that up might be the biggest problem this last year.

Collins defensive rating last year -- https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=john+...ng+2020-21
KP defensive rating  -- https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kristap...ar-by-year
Holmes defensive rating -- https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/richaun...ar-by-year

Collins stats -- https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...ijo01.html
KP stats -- https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...ikr01.html
Holmes stats -- https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...eri01.html
"There are no friends on the court." - Luka Doncic
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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived - by Kammrath - 11-30-2020, 11:21 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by TXBamanut - 03-24-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-24-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by ItsGoTime - 03-24-2021, 04:31 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by KillerLeft - 03-24-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:04 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:16 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Tyler - 03-24-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jason Terry - 03-24-2021, 08:36 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 09:26 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jommybone - 03-24-2021, 09:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Hypermav - 03-24-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:17 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by mvossman - 03-24-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:50 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:56 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cjeter24 - 03-24-2021, 10:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:21 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cow - 03-24-2021, 11:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Branduil - 03-24-2021, 11:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-25-2021, 08:12 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:16 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-25-2021, 08:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:28 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:39 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 03:17 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by michaeltex - 03-25-2021, 04:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 04:51 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by JamesConway - 03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:58 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 04:08 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL w/ $22.7M-$34.4M | FA Aug 2, 5 pm | trading KP top priority? - by TXBamanut - 07-13-2021, 07:21 PM

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